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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said:

      Well, this happened again today.

      I think it is time to yank those drives. 😞

      That really sucks man

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @MattSpeller
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        @MattSpeller said:

        That really sucks man

        It's a character builder, i say.

        The thing that sucks is that I wasn't in the office, again, when it happened. Thank goodness for iDrac!

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill said:

          @Dashrender said:

          Wait - what? Why? Does xByte no longer believe in their SSDs?

          I would not say that.

          I'm not really sure WHAT is going on. I did ask for clarification as to what they think the issue is.

          Now I just pray the thing stays up until I can get a new array in there. I'll probably going to start a "which hard drive thread" as well as a "how do i copy this XS instance" thread. 🙂

          By following this guide if you're in any way similarly setup.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said:

            By following this guide if you're in any way similarly setup.

            I don't have it booting off USB.

            I have a test XS set up that I could copy the VM to, then install the new disk array, then install XS onto the new array and copy the VM back. Other than it taking a while, is there any reason that wouldn't work well?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              You have XS installed directly to the hardware, rather than an SD or USB? Seems a bit odd to configure it like that for the very issue you mentioned when posting above. Which is "how do you replicate your boot device?"

              When you install it directly to the server hardware, it's difficult to protect from a buggard OS, or patch.

              But on SD or USB you can always just keep a current version in your safe in case anything happens to the boot partition.

              Is XS installed directly to the hardware?

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said:

                You have XS installed directly to the hardware, rather than an SD or USB? Seems a bit odd to configure it like that for the very issue you mentioned when posting above. Which is "how do you replicate your boot device?"

                When you install it directly to the server hardware, it's difficult to protect from a buggard OS, or patch.

                But on SD or USB you can always just keep a current version in your safe in case anything happens to the boot partition.

                Is XS installed directly to the hardware?

                +1, usb boot works a treat for hypervisors that are not made by microsoft

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  Is XS installed directly to the hardware?

                  Yes, though I am starting to question that decision. 🙂

                  I'm sensing a feeling in the force...move that install to USB!

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @BRRABill
                    last edited by MattSpeller

                    @BRRABill said:

                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    Is XS installed directly to the hardware?

                    Yes, though I am starting to question that decision. 🙂

                    I'm sensing a feeling in the force...move that install to USB!

                    Coolest part is that there's no need to even prep a spare one. If it dies you just install a clean one onto a fresh USB drive. All the actual config data / important shit is in your VM's. I do suggest you document what version/options etc you used just in case of brain fart during disaster recovery.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
                      last edited by

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      @BRRABill said:

                      @DustinB3403 said:

                      Is XS installed directly to the hardware?

                      Yes, though I am starting to question that decision. 🙂

                      I'm sensing a feeling in the force...move that install to USB!

                      Coolest part is that there's no need to even prep a spare one. If it dies you just install a clean one onto a fresh USB drive. All the actual config data / important shit is in your VM's

                      Well there is, for example if you have a software RAID (you really want those configurations in place). Otherwise the hardware raid controller would manage the array and you'd be in golden shape to just stand up a new hypervisor.

                      SD cards generally are more reliable over USB. But both are perfectly suitable.

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        @BRRABill said:

                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        Is XS installed directly to the hardware?

                        Yes, though I am starting to question that decision. 🙂

                        I'm sensing a feeling in the force...move that install to USB!

                        Coolest part is that there's no need to even prep a spare one. If it dies you just install a clean one onto a fresh USB drive. All the actual config data / important shit is in your VM's

                        Well there is, for example if you have a software RAID

                        Pffffft no one does that 😛

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
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                          <throat clearing....> hmmm

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill
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                            So, here is my scenario...

                            I have this DELL server. There are two arrays in it.

                            Array1 is the troublesome SSD array. It is where XS is installed, and also where the VMs reside. This array need sto be replaced.
                            Array2 is the SATA array that came with the server. Two 7.2K drives in RAID1. (Originally purchased just to run Hyper-V, which I am now no longer using.)

                            Is there a way to install XS to a USB, and boot the server off that USB and have it recognize the VMs that are currently on Array1? I could even copy them to Array 2 (is THAT possible) while I figure out what I am going to do purchasing new drives for an array.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
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                              I'm not sure if you could move them around on the arrays (there might be some way, I just don't know). I'd just export them to external media and import them once you have the new installation stood up.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                I have a DELL T320.

                                Apparently it has an INTERNAL SD card. (Interesting from the articles I read, it appears to be a redundant internal SD card reader for hypervisor usage.) Though I did not purchase that with my server.

                                So I could try to acquire one (or install a thrid party SD card reader) or just use a USB stick.

                                Go with the USB stick?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  So, here is my scenario...

                                  I have this DELL server. There are two arrays in it.

                                  Array1 is the troublesome SSD array. It is where XS is installed, and also where the VMs reside. This array need sto be replaced.
                                  Array2 is the SATA array that came with the server. Two 7.2K drives in RAID1. (Originally purchased just to run Hyper-V, which I am now no longer using.)

                                  Is there a way to install XS to a USB, and boot the server off that USB and have it recognize the VMs that are currently on Array1? I could even copy them to Array 2 (is THAT possible) while I figure out what I am going to do purchasing new drives for an array.

                                  Xen is just linux underneight, so sure you can do this.. you'll likely need to do it while the VMs are turned off. If push comes to shove, you can do it a the linux command line with cp from one mount point to another.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    I have a DELL T320.

                                    Apparently it has an INTERNAL SD card. (Interesting from the articles I read, it appears to be a redundant internal SD card reader for hypervisor usage.) Though I did not purchase that with my server.

                                    So I could try to acquire one (or install a thrid party SD card reader) or just use a USB stick.

                                    Go with the USB stick?

                                    Call XByte, they should be able to direct you.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Call XByte, they should be able to direct you.

                                      My preliminary searches online have the reader at around $75.

                                      I figure i can get a USB drive for much, much less.

                                      Any reason to go SD here?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        I used an off the shelf USB stick in my first ESXi server for 5 years. But when I tried to clone it others.. those others would never work.

                                        I've been using SD for around 2 years now.. they always clone without issues - can't explain the difference...

                                        Do you need an actual reader? or does the server just have an SD slot? My HP DL380p G8 has a SD slot directly on the mobo.

                                        That's why I said call Xbyte.. they should tell you the options.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @Dashrender
                                          last edited by BRRABill

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          That's why I said call Xbyte.. they should tell you the options.

                                          I contacted DELL support. I do NOT have a reader on the mobo. I need the add-on part, which as I said probably costs around $75. I'll check and report back.

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                                          • MattSpellerM
                                            MattSpeller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            I used an off the shelf USB stick in my first ESXi server for 5 years. But when I tried to clone it others.. those others would never work.

                                            I've been using SD for around 2 years now.. they always clone without issues - can't explain the difference...

                                            Do you need an actual reader? or does the server just have an SD slot? My HP DL380p G8 has a SD slot directly on the mobo.

                                            That's why I said call Xbyte.. they should tell you the options.

                                            I never had any issues with USB sticks but I used good quality ones

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