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    • wrx7mW
      wrx7m
      last edited by wrx7m

      I have two Dell R720XDs with redundant SD cards running ESXi6. I have two more R710s running 16GB Sandisk Ultra Fit USB 3.0 Flash Drives, also running ESXi 6. I got them for three reasons- The had great reviews, they are cheap and they are tiny, which means they are a lot less likely to get knocked off or broken in the USB port.

      http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820173033&cm_re=ultra_fit--20-173-033--Product

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @MattSpeller
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        @MattSpeller said:

        If I were buying one today for myself or a "critical duty" I'd get these, no question. Best reviewed ones I can find.

        That is some serious USB drive.

        I have a feeling a lot of the price is driven by features you wouldn't need for this purpose, though.

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill said:

          @MattSpeller said:

          If I were buying one today for myself or a "critical duty" I'd get these, no question. Best reviewed ones I can find.

          That is some serious USB drive.

          I have a feeling a lot of the price is driven by features you wouldn't need for this purpose, though.

          Indeed, I'd stick with a good name brand one, tiny thumbnail form factor if that's what floats your boat.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
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            I had a thought on this over the weekend, which might help push my decision here.

            Since this is a DELL server, will it have any issues running off of non-DELL USB drives?

            I mean, you would think it wouldn't matter, but as we have seen, it certainly does not like non-DELL stuff.

            I could get the DELL SD reader and two DELL SD cards. But that seems like overkill.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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              @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

              I had a thought on this over the weekend, which might help push my decision here.

              Since this is a DELL server, will it have any issues running off of non-DELL USB drives?

              I mean, you would think it wouldn't matter, but as we have seen, it certainly does not like non-DELL stuff.

              I could get the DELL SD reader and two DELL SD cards. But that seems like overkill.

              I've never even seen a Dell branded USB drive.

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                Alex Sage @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill

                I mean, you would think it wouldn't matter, but as we have seen, it certainly does not like non-DELL stuff.

                I have non-DELL memory and hard dives in my Dell Servers with no issues. I suggest you try it again, with new drives. I even have a same SSD drives you do running in a dell server with no issues.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                  I've never even seen a Dell branded USB drive.

                  They sell DELL SD cards with the DELL SD reader.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @Alex Sage
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                    @aaronstuder said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                    I have non-DELL memory and hard dives in my Dell Servers with no issues. I suggest you try it again, with new drives. I even have a same SSD drives you do running in a dell server with no issues.

                    These drives are specifically designed to work with the DELL servers as well.

                    I'll ping @jleskovsky again, maybe he will chime in.

                    I know this is a newer brand of the SSD everyone has been using from EDGE/xByte.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                      @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                      I've never even seen a Dell branded USB drive.

                      They sell DELL SD cards with the DELL SD reader.

                      I know that they sell cards, had no idea that they were Dell branded. Dell doesn't make cards, so it is like Dell floppies, just their name slapped on it.

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                        Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by Alex Sage

                        @scottalanmiller

                        Dell doesn't make cards, so it is like Dell floppies, just their name slapped on it.

                        And hard drives, and memory... Does Dell really "make" anything?

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @Alex Sage
                          last edited by

                          @aaronstuder said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                          @scottalanmiller

                          Dell doesn't make cards, so it is like Dell floppies, just their name slapped on it.

                          And hard drives, and memory... Does Dell really "make" anything?

                          Technically, no. They do the design work for cases and such, everything else is almost always off the shelf parts.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                            last edited by

                            @aaronstuder said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                            @scottalanmiller

                            Dell doesn't make cards, so it is like Dell floppies, just their name slapped on it.

                            And hard drives, and memory... Does Dell really "make" anything?

                            Server chassis, motherboards, some chip sets... they make the servers, like all the server makers. They all do the same things, make the servers, not the plug in parts.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                              last edited by

                              @travisdh1 said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                              Technically, no. They do the design work for cases and such, everything else is almost always off the shelf parts.

                              HPE especially makes quite a bit of their own stuff. But Dell does, too. If you got a bare server, the only things that are not really Dell are the CPU and the memory, which are interchangeable parts. Computers are complex and made up of tons of components, no one anywhere makes every single thing themselves, especially for servers which are huge. But Dell makes a LOT of stuff.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill
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                                So what was the general consensus here?

                                OK to boot XenServer off a name brand USB stick?

                                Or is the DELL server going to throw a fit about that, too?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes, we all use brand name.

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                    OK to boot XenServer off a name brand USB stick?

                                    Yes, should work (I'm doing it.)

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      Any name brand stick should be fine.. just stay away from the SW freebies 😛

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                        Yes, we all use brand name.

                                        Continual crashing of non-DELL stuff after being told not to use non-DELL stuff has put the fear of ... DELL ... into me.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                          @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                          Yes, we all use brand name.

                                          Continual crashing of non-DELL stuff after being told not to use non-DELL stuff has put the fear of ... DELL ... into me.

                                          Other than non-Dell firmware, what non-Dell stuff has caused an issue?

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said

                                            Other than non-Dell firmware, what non-Dell stuff has caused an issue?

                                            That's it.

                                            Just where all my data is stored. Nothing major. LOL.

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