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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller @coliver
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      @coliver said:

      The big problem that I see with those in-the-wall units is that they are slow. 150Mb/s... half as slow as the AC Lite units which are only 30$ more.

      Exceptionally few people would ever have a real issue with that.

      Those exceptionally few people have home servers and SSD's heh.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @coliver
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        @coliver said:

        The big problem that I see with those in-the-wall units is that they are slow. 150Mb/s... half as slow as the AC Lite units which are only 30$ more.

        True and they are only 10/100...

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        • coliverC
          coliver
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          I wonder what kind of client density these would be looking at?

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          • coliverC
            coliver @MattSpeller
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            @MattSpeller said:

            @coliver said:

            The big problem that I see with those in-the-wall units is that they are slow. 150Mb/s... half as slow as the AC Lite units which are only 30$ more.

            Exceptionally few people would ever have a real issue with that.

            Those exceptionally few people have home servers and SSD's heh.

            I'm running at 150Mb/s now... I could use a bit more speed. Granted I am one of those people.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              @DustinB3403 said:

              So I'm considering wiring up my house with ethernet and ditching my single wireless unit for a more robust solution. Looking at Ubiquiti they have some really nice offerings but I'm hesitant to drop the money on it for the purposes of "home use" without great cause.

              So I'm looking for recommendations on specific products and configurations from the community.

              Any input is welcome.

              Go professional at home. Bring your home line up to business level.

              Ubiquiti ERX for $60 and a UAP-AC-LITE for $80.

              This 1000x this.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said:

                I was actually considering wiring up the house with the in-wall units.

                Seems like overkill - over spending.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @coliver
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                  @coliver said:

                  The big problem that I see with those in-the-wall units is that they are slow. 150Mb/s... half as slow as the AC Lite units which are only 30$ more.

                  really? do you need much more than this for application it's meant for? Also, how many places are providing 150 Mb to the internet?

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:

                    @coliver said:

                    The big problem that I see with those in-the-wall units is that they are slow. 150Mb/s... half as slow as the AC Lite units which are only 30$ more.

                    really? do you need much more than this for application it's meant for? Also, how many places are providing 150 Mb to the internet?

                    Enough places that I don't think we can just assume it's not widely available anymore. Still not nearly enough places, but thanks to Alphabet (Google), it's becoming much more common.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:

                      @coliver said:

                      The big problem that I see with those in-the-wall units is that they are slow. 150Mb/s... half as slow as the AC Lite units which are only 30$ more.

                      really? do you need much more than this for application it's meant for? Also, how many places are providing 150 Mb to the internet?

                      Outside of the US it is very common and the US is getting there quickly.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:

                        @Dashrender said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:

                        @coliver said:

                        The big problem that I see with those in-the-wall units is that they are slow. 150Mb/s... half as slow as the AC Lite units which are only 30$ more.

                        really? do you need much more than this for application it's meant for? Also, how many places are providing 150 Mb to the internet?

                        Outside of the US it is very common and the US is getting there quickly.

                        Maybe quick by US standards, but certainly not quick.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:

                          @Dashrender said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:

                          @coliver said:

                          The big problem that I see with those in-the-wall units is that they are slow. 150Mb/s... half as slow as the AC Lite units which are only 30$ more.

                          really? do you need much more than this for application it's meant for? Also, how many places are providing 150 Mb to the internet?

                          Outside of the US it is very common and the US is getting there quickly.

                          Maybe quick by US standards, but certainly not quick.

                          I certainly wouldn't call it quick even by US standards. Maybe we'll see the average business have a 150 Mb pipe in the next 5 years.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:

                            @JaredBusch said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:

                            @Dashrender said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:

                            @coliver said:

                            The big problem that I see with those in-the-wall units is that they are slow. 150Mb/s... half as slow as the AC Lite units which are only 30$ more.

                            really? do you need much more than this for application it's meant for? Also, how many places are providing 150 Mb to the internet?

                            Outside of the US it is very common and the US is getting there quickly.

                            Maybe quick by US standards, but certainly not quick.

                            I certainly wouldn't call it quick even by US standards. Maybe we'll see the average business have a 150 Mb pipe in the next 5 years.

                            It'll be available. Whether or not people take advantage of it....

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                            • Deleted74295D
                              Deleted74295 Banned
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                              Do you need 150MB as a solo user? How can you take advantage of it if the content hosts (Microsoft, dropbox, google) throttle your download rate from their servers.

                              https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1565004-download-speeds-do-we-need-more?page=1&source=navbar-community-notifications#entry-5722964

                              Rather than hijack this thread.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                                @Breffni-Potter said:

                                Do you need 150MB as a solo user? How can you take advantage of it if the content hosts (Microsoft, dropbox, google) throttle your download rate from their servers.

                                It depends what you are doing. I sure want 150Mb/s (not 150 MB, that's disk connection speeds.)

                                Think about this... I get 100Mb/s - 1,000Mb/s from my own servers online. Plus I get a decent amount from Netflix and similar. We use services like Google, Amazon, OneDrive and more. Want to use all of those in any quantity and suddenly 150Mb/s doesn't seem like all that much.

                                Now, I'm not a single user, I am a family of four. But this stuff adds up FAST. Considering that your personal storage can be all online and we need GigE at home, why wouldn't we need GigE on the WAN?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @Deleted74295
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                                  @Breffni-Potter said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:

                                  Do you need 150MB as a solo user? How can you take advantage of it if the content hosts (Microsoft, dropbox, google) throttle your download rate from their servers.

                                  https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1565004-download-speeds-do-we-need-more?page=1&source=navbar-community-notifications#entry-5722964

                                  Rather than hijack this thread.

                                  You made a thread over there? I feel dirty now.. 😛

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    An example... our own ownCloud instance can get 100Mb/s or more. If I don't have at least that at home then my ownCloud is getting throttled on my end instead of on the hosting end.

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                                    • Deleted74295D
                                      Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      I sure want 150Mb/s (not 150 MB, that's disk connection speeds.)

                                      Oh shhh 😛

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Now, I'm not a single user, I am a family of four. But this stuff adds up FAST. Considering that your personal storage can be all online and we need GigE at home, why wouldn't we need GigE on the WAN?

                                      But let's assume that you get 70 or 80 from your local LAN devices.

                                      What are the speeds you will get from those hosted providers? If the content creators (netflix/amazon/google) limit your bandwidth, what do you really get in reality? Are we closer to 10-20 per second?

                                      As for own servers with a good amount of bandwidth, what data rate do you need?

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                                      • Deleted74295D
                                        Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        An example... our own ownCloud instance can get 100Mb/s or more. If I don't have at least that at home then my ownCloud is getting throttled on my end instead of on the hosting end.

                                        But how much of that bandwidth do you notice you use? If I bounced you down to 50, how long before you notice? Do you work with GB files often or is it mostly documents?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                                          @Breffni-Potter said:

                                          As for own servers with a good amount of bandwidth, what data rate do you need?

                                          At least 1Gb/s to not make things slower than necessary.

                                          Need? Not much. "Can use", a lot.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                                            @Breffni-Potter said:

                                            What are the speeds you will get from those hosted providers? If the content creators (netflix/amazon/google) limit your bandwidth, what do you really get in reality? Are we closer to 10-20 per second?

                                            Quite a lot, really. Considering we might use four different services all serving HD (1080p or even 4K) at once (Hulu, Amazon, Netflix and YouTube/Google) just for entertainment alone, it adds up really quickly. If each can deliver 30Mb/s, that means 120Mb/s is needed just to keep things working.

                                            Then add in Steam downloads, GOG, Origin and similar. Even just consumer "needs" get really big, really quickly.

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