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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

      Of course, you could make your OWN service for this that requires a long username, a super long password, a dongle, an RSA card, responding to a text message AND a 500 character URL.... but within reason this is basically as secure as things get.

      What about things like ownCloud where you get a link sent to you, and a password sent to you (preferably by different means)...?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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        @dafyre said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

        @scottalanmiller said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

        Of course, you could make your OWN service for this that requires a long username, a super long password, a dongle, an RSA card, responding to a text message AND a 500 character URL.... but within reason this is basically as secure as things get.

        What about things like ownCloud where you get a link sent to you, and a password sent to you (preferably by different means)...?

        It's the combined length that makes it secure.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller

          Do you know if the SharePoint nomenclature is the same for everyone that uses the hosted version?

          I mean, I guess everyone has your e-mail address and domain anyway. Just seemed ... personal to be out there like that.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

            @scottalanmiller

            Do you know if the SharePoint nomenclature is the same for everyone that uses the hosted version?

            I mean, I guess everyone has your e-mail address and domain anyway. Just seemed ... personal to be out there like that.

            It would all be the same, yes.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said

              It would all be the same, yes.

              Well, I guess POTUS wouldn't want to use that! 😉

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                @scottalanmiller

                Do you know if the SharePoint nomenclature is the same for everyone that uses the hosted version?

                I mean, I guess everyone has your e-mail address and domain anyway. Just seemed ... personal to be out there like that.

                You're email address like you home address isn't private - really can't be. So it's not something that's part of security.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                  @BRRABill said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                  @scottalanmiller said

                  It would all be the same, yes.

                  Well, I guess POTUS wouldn't want to use that! 😉

                  I don't follow.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said

                    I don't follow.

                    I guess it just felt ... dirty ... to give out that much info. 🙂

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                      @scottalanmiller said

                      I don't follow.

                      I guess it just felt ... dirty ... to give out that much info. 🙂

                      I still have no idea what you are referencing.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @dafyre
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                        @dafyre said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                        Of course, you could make your OWN service for this that requires a long username, a super long password, a dongle, an RSA card, responding to a text message AND a 500 character URL.... but within reason this is basically as secure as things get.

                        What about things like ownCloud where you get a link sent to you, and a password sent to you (preferably by different means)...?

                        ownCloud has link sharing also.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
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                          I consider things like this secure because the document is only accessible when you choose to make it acessible.

                          Unlike the fake security that is Facebook. If you upload media to Facebook, it is accessible to anyone that figures out the link. Your Facebook security settings do not apply.

                          Like this image, posted "friends only" last week.

                          https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/t31.0-8/q83/s960x960/12977152_10206115579193454_1225825370981412719_o.jpg

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch

                            That kind of touches on my next question.

                            Are any of these links ever available to search engines?

                            I was playing around with YouTube video streaming last week, in a testing scenario, and within a few minutes all my test video were at the top of a Google search for my company.

                            Needless to say I freaked a bit.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              Youtube is Google's product, why would you expect anything less?

                              As for the links, if there aren't actually listed anywhere on the site, and the DB of the websites aren't spider-able, you should be good.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said

                                Youtube is Google's product, why would you expect anything less?

                                It was instantaneous. Creepy.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @BRRABill
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                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  @Dashrender said

                                  Youtube is Google's product, why would you expect anything less?

                                  It was instantaneous. Creepy.

                                  again.. Google property. but even when not, Google is pretty damned fast at finding things.. I'm sure they have 10's of Gb of bandwidth doing only that.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said

                                    again.. Google property. but even when not, Google is pretty damned fast at finding things.. I'm sure they have 10's of Gb of bandwidth doing only that.

                                    Our company is barely on there.

                                    I literally tested a video of myself on ML and it was up in 3 milliseconds.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      @BRRABill said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                                      @JaredBusch

                                      That kind of touches on my next question.

                                      Are any of these links ever available to search engines?

                                      If you leave them open AND publish them somewhere for the search engines to find, of course they are. Same as if you put your username and password here on ML, the search engines would find that too.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                                        I was playing around with YouTube video streaming last week, in a testing scenario, and within a few minutes all my test video were at the top of a Google search for my company.

                                        Needless to say I freaked a bit.

                                        Most people would be delighted as that would be the intend of publishing stuff about your company. You submitted company content directly to the search engine and the engine showed your results. that's not creepy, it's both desired (by the 99.999%) and totally expected.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          @Dashrender said

                                          Youtube is Google's product, why would you expect anything less?

                                          It was instantaneous. Creepy.

                                          again.. Google property. but even when not, Google is pretty damned fast at finding things.. I'm sure they have 10's of Gb of bandwidth doing only that.

                                          Or, you know, 100s of Tb of bandwidth.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                            @BRRABill said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                                            @Dashrender said

                                            Youtube is Google's product, why would you expect anything less?

                                            It was instantaneous. Creepy.

                                            SW and ML take under one minute to be listed on Google results, and I know that ML doesn't submit to Google, Google just watches the updates.

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