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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @BRRABill
      last edited by

      @BRRABill said:

      @Dashrender said

      Sure, but the IP isn't listed in the cert, so the browser you're using to connect to the mail server doesn't see the IP in the cert.. so there's an error. I think there used to be a time when you could add an IP... but not sure that's allowed anymore.

      So, you need two certs then?

      Why would you need two?

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said

        Why would you need two?

        I've only ever followed the directions from MDaemon to generate a certificate for what I need, which is always in the format of

        mail.domain.com

        Are you saying I can add the straight IP as well? On the same one?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          according to this
          https://support.globalsign.com/customer/portal/articles/1216536-securing-a-public-ip-address---ssl-certificates

          you can have the IP be the common name. You can use SAN Secondary Address Names to a single cert (SAN certs cost more money, but one cert can have at least 5 additional names, maybe more, so you save money )

          So if you wanted the IP to not give errors, then you could set the IP as the common name, and mail.domain.com in the SAN

          Though I wonder, why do you need the IP itself to not give an error? Do you purposefully have users use the IP? If not, and it's only you using the IP, then why spend money, you know you can safely ignore the error.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
            last edited by

            That might work for my other stuff, though.

            If I can do DOMAIN.COM and then

            vpn.domain.com
            mail.domain.com
            iDRAC.domain.com

            to fill all my certificate needs

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            • iroalI
              iroal
              last edited by

              Startssl is free, It's easy to create and install.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill said in SSL Certificates:

                That might work for my other stuff, though.

                If I can do DOMAIN.COM and then

                vpn.domain.com
                mail.domain.com
                iDRAC.domain.com

                to fill all my certificate needs

                Why would you do domain.com? That's not a real service is it? it's generally better off being a redirector to a real service like www.domain.com.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill Yeah. Last time we updated at work I paid a little extra for a wildcard cert. So *.domain.com, it's all valid for the one cert.

                  For my personal server, I just run Let's Encrypt.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @travisdh1
                    last edited by

                    @travisdh1 said in SSL Certificates:

                    @BRRABill Yeah. Last time we updated at work I paid a little extra for a wildcard cert. So *.domain.com, it's all valid for the one cert.

                    For my personal server, I just run Let's Encrypt.

                    How much is a little? The last time I looked (it's been many years) a wildcard cert was 5X the cost of a normal cert, maybe more.

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in SSL Certificates:

                      @travisdh1 said in SSL Certificates:

                      @BRRABill Yeah. Last time we updated at work I paid a little extra for a wildcard cert. So *.domain.com, it's all valid for the one cert.

                      For my personal server, I just run Let's Encrypt.

                      How much is a little? The last time I looked (it's been many years) a wildcard cert was 5X the cost of a normal cert, maybe more.

                      You can pickup a Comodo cert for $94/year. Looks like today's pricing has majorly changed since the last time I bought a cert, single site certs for $9. Let's Encrypt is having a real nice effect on the market!

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said

                        Why would you do domain.com? That's not a real service is it? it's generally better off being a redirector to a real service like www.domain.com.

                        That was an example.

                        Even after yesterday I still seem to be afraid to post real details online!

                        vpn.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com
                        mail.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com
                        iDRAC.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          For me it wasn't so much the cost as wondering of there was a better way than what I was doing.

                          Part optimization, part learning what else might be out there.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @BRRABill said in SSL Certificates:

                            @Dashrender said

                            Why would you do domain.com? That's not a real service is it? it's generally better off being a redirector to a real service like www.domain.com.

                            That was an example.

                            Even after yesterday I still seem to be afraid to post real details online!

                            vpn.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com
                            mail.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com
                            iDRAC.brrabillisafraidoftheinternet.com

                            LOL - if the host name is in DNS - then your non posting of the real links here is doesn't gain you anything.

                            Google undoubtedly is looking through all of the newly registered domains daily (or rather minutely). Then Google looks to see if those domains have DNS entries, if they do, they then query every record it can in DNS. Then I bet it attempts to connect to at least the root of every record listed there, then starts the spidering.

                            The main reason to not post your real domain is to keep script kiddies who peruse forums like these for things to attack just because you were talking about it.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              Look I wouldn't make fun of everyone's else fears.

                              Seriously, just kidding. I'm learning. That's the best part about ML, not just teaching, but also breaking down dumb ideas people hold on to.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                Well you helped break one wide open on me today - that spiders can't just call web servers anywhere they wanna go.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  @travisdh1 said

                                  You can pickup a Comodo cert for $94/year. Looks like today's pricing has majorly changed since the last time I bought a cert, single site certs for $9. Let's Encrypt is having a real nice effect on the market!

                                  Where did you see $9?

                                  On Comodo the cheapest I see is $76.95.

                                  Or did you mean elsewhere?

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said in SSL Certificates:

                                    @travisdh1 said

                                    You can pickup a Comodo cert for $94/year. Looks like today's pricing has majorly changed since the last time I bought a cert, single site certs for $9. Let's Encrypt is having a real nice effect on the market!

                                    Where did you see $9?

                                    On Comodo the cheapest I see is $76.95.

                                    Or did you mean elsewhere?

                                    You have to look elsewhere. I forget where exactly I saw that price, but it wasn't direct.

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                                    • A
                                      Alex Sage
                                      last edited by

                                      https://www.ssls.com/

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @Alex Sage
                                        last edited by

                                        @aaronstuder said in SSL Certificates:

                                        https://www.ssls.com/

                                        Wow, thems some bargains.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @Alex Sage
                                          last edited by

                                          @aaronstuder said in SSL Certificates:

                                          https://www.ssls.com/

                                          Thanks for this.

                                          My $70 a year GoDaddy cert was up. I bought the same type of cert from SSLS.COM for $15 for 3 years. TOTAL.

                                          That is exactly the kind of information I was looking for.

                                          More money saved on ML. AWESOME.

                                          And in the process learned a lot of certificates and domain validation.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            @BRRABill said in SSL Certificates:

                                            @aaronstuder said in SSL Certificates:

                                            https://www.ssls.com/

                                            Thanks for this.

                                            My $70 a year GoDaddy cert was up. I bought the same type of cert from SSLS.COM for $15 for 3 years. TOTAL.

                                            That is exactly the kind of information I was looking for.

                                            More money saved on ML. AWESOME.

                                            And in the process learned a lot of certificates and domain validation.

                                            Nice!

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