Ransomware Management Career Fork
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@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.
I can't leave my state. My fiance just got her career job with the state and is insanely happy. If I have to choose between her happiness and mine she's going to win. I'm never going to make her give up her own happiness. I will commute or do whatever I have to do to make as much money as possible. Maybe i'll drive an Uber in my spare time. Whatever.
Her happiness is more important to me than mine is.
There we go, you two made the same decision my wife and I did. Her career comes before mine and that was a conscious decision that we made together
This is the core of my being. She will always be more important to me than I am to myself. Take money completely out of the equation.
That's irrational though, if you could save the stress of money by making more money, wouldn't she be happier in the long term?
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@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.
I can't leave my state. My fiance just got her career job with the state and is insanely happy. If I have to choose between her happiness and mine she's going to win. I'm never going to make her give up her own happiness. I will commute or do whatever I have to do to make as much money as possible. Maybe i'll drive an Uber in my spare time. Whatever.
Her happiness is more important to me than mine is.
There we go, you two made the same decision my wife and I did. Her career comes before mine and that was a conscious decision that we made together
This is the core of my being. She will always be more important to me than I am to myself. Take money completely out of the equation.
That's irrational though, if you could save the stress of money by making more money, wouldn't she be happier in the long term?
She is fulfilled with the work she is doing and she also makes a lot of money. If I took that away and made lets say double what she makes. Then I feel extreme guilt and I am unhappy. She isnt as fulfilled so she is less happy. Does the removal of financial stress (which I can be let go at any point) validate that? IMO it doesn't.
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@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
This is the core of my being. She will always be more important to me than I am to myself. Take money completely out of the equation.
That is completely irrational.
Each person has to have a focus for themselves. It's a part of nature. You can't sustain yourself from a smile on her face, you have to each eat, drink and defecate.
That is a self focus, you have to be able to be happy as well, otherwise you will make everyone around you unhappy.
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@DustinB3403 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
This is the core of my being. She will always be more important to me than I am to myself. Take money completely out of the equation.
That is completely irrational.
Each person has to have a focus for themselves. It's a part of nature. You can't sustain yourself from a smile on her face, you have to each eat, drink and defecate.
That is a self focus, you have to be able to be happy as well, otherwise you will make everyone around you unhappy.
It's a rarity to have to choose between your happiness and someone else's in my experience. When I am forced into a situation like that I am selfless. That's just who I am.
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@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.
Unlike you, he is kind of in a major market (the market is major, he's kind of in it.)
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@scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.
Unlike you, he is kind of in a major market (the market is major, he's kind of in it.)
Tri-state?
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@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.
Unlike you, he is kind of in a major market (the market is major, he's kind of in it.)
Tri-state?
Yes
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@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.
Unlike you, he is kind of in a major market (the market is major, he's kind of in it.)
Tri-state?
Yes
Sorry, you shouldn't need to move around too much. Plenty of huge opportunities in that area.
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@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.
Unlike you, he is kind of in a major market (the market is major, he's kind of in it.)
Tri-state?
Yes
Sorry, you shouldn't need to move around too much. Plenty of huge opportunities in that area.
I've been told that but I honestly haven't seen a lot. Where should I be looking outside of the traditional websites (career builder, monster, linkedin, etc)? Maybe there is something I'm missing. I see DevOps positions everywhere but that isn't my skillset.
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@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.
Unlike you, he is kind of in a major market (the market is major, he's kind of in it.)
Tri-state?
Yes
Sorry, you shouldn't need to move around too much. Plenty of huge opportunities in that area.
I've been told that but I honestly haven't seen a lot. Where should I be looking outside of the traditional websites (career builder, monster, linkedin, etc)? Maybe there is something I'm missing. I see DevOps positions everywhere but that isn't my skillset.
Networking. You won't find the positions you are looking for online.
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@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
I can't leave my state. My fiance just got her career job with the state and is insanely happy. If I have to choose between her happiness and mine she's going to win. I'm never going to make her give up her own happiness. I will commute or do whatever I have to do to make as much money as possible. Maybe i'll drive an Uber in my spare time. Whatever.
Her happiness is more important to me than mine is.
Nothing wrong with that. Hopefully she wants to do the same for you and it is just you not letting her. Which is also fine.
But be aware of the implications and as a personal recommendation, outside of IT stuff, I think that you will be far happier in life, most likely, if you sit down and work this out with her as a team. Let her me a part of the bigger conversation. If you aren't functioning as a team, you will always suffer. The amount of money you go after today, or long term, the long term career stability, the ability to retire... these are all things she is making "decisions" about now, possibly without knowing it because you sound like you might be shielding her from the conversation.
She might love her career, but would she like being rich more? What about being more stable? What about retiring early? Maybe she would prioritize those things.
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@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.
Unlike you, he is kind of in a major market (the market is major, he's kind of in it.)
Tri-state?
Yes
Sorry, you shouldn't need to move around too much. Plenty of huge opportunities in that area.
I've been told that but I honestly haven't seen a lot. Where should I be looking outside of the traditional websites (career builder, monster, linkedin, etc)? Maybe there is something I'm missing. I see DevOps positions everywhere but that isn't my skillset.
I won't even talk to people through LinkedIn. I have zero faith that anything there is legit. No competent recruiter would be there, IMHO.
You also need to change your skillset to what the market demands, if you want options.
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@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.
Unlike you, he is kind of in a major market (the market is major, he's kind of in it.)
Tri-state?
Yes
Sorry, you shouldn't need to move around too much. Plenty of huge opportunities in that area.
I've been told that but I honestly haven't seen a lot. Where should I be looking outside of the traditional websites (career builder, monster, linkedin, etc)? Maybe there is something I'm missing. I see DevOps positions everywhere but that isn't my skillset.
Networking. You won't find the positions you are looking for online.
This is very true. Also, the more than you limit yourself geographically, the more you have to be flexible in other areas (hours, pay, job type and role, etc.)
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I think you guys have a mostly accurate assessment of my personality type. I'm sort of funny. I make sure everyone knows who I am and I have 99% positive relationships formed with everyone. I put my feelers out recently and have come up empty. Where should I be networking now? AA meetings?
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@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
I think you guys have a mostly accurate assessment of my personality type. I'm sort of funny. I make sure everyone knows who I am and I have 99% positive relationships formed with everyone. I put my feelers out recently and have come up empty. Where should I be networking now? AA meetings?
Professional events. How often are you at meet ups for your technology choices, for example?
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@scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
I think you guys have a mostly accurate assessment of my personality type. I'm sort of funny. I make sure everyone knows who I am and I have 99% positive relationships formed with everyone. I put my feelers out recently and have come up empty. Where should I be networking now? AA meetings?
Professional events. How often are you at meet ups for your technology choices, for example?
I'm going to Mangocon?
Honestly, practically never. I guess I should put myself out there more. It's like speed dating for a job huh
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@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
I think you guys have a mostly accurate assessment of my personality type. I'm sort of funny. I make sure everyone knows who I am and I have 99% positive relationships formed with everyone. I put my feelers out recently and have come up empty. Where should I be networking now? AA meetings?
Professional events. How often are you at meet ups for your technology choices, for example?
I'm going to Mangocon?
Check out SpiceCorps local to you. They can be iffy on content but the real reason you attend is to interact with people.
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@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
I think you guys have a mostly accurate assessment of my personality type. I'm sort of funny. I make sure everyone knows who I am and I have 99% positive relationships formed with everyone. I put my feelers out recently and have come up empty. Where should I be networking now? AA meetings?
Professional events. How often are you at meet ups for your technology choices, for example?
I'm going to Mangocon?
Check out SpiceCorps local to you. They can be iffy on content but the real reason you attend is to interact with people.
I'll do that. They do message me pretty frequently.
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@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
I think you guys have a mostly accurate assessment of my personality type. I'm sort of funny. I make sure everyone knows who I am and I have 99% positive relationships formed with everyone. I put my feelers out recently and have come up empty. Where should I be networking now? AA meetings?
Professional events. How often are you at meet ups for your technology choices, for example?
I'm going to Mangocon?
Check out SpiceCorps local to you. They can be iffy on content but the real reason you attend is to interact with people.
I'll do that. They do message me pretty frequently.
It's a full time job. You'll be working as much on this as you are at your real job.
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@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
@wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:
I think you guys have a mostly accurate assessment of my personality type. I'm sort of funny. I make sure everyone knows who I am and I have 99% positive relationships formed with everyone. I put my feelers out recently and have come up empty. Where should I be networking now? AA meetings?
Professional events. How often are you at meet ups for your technology choices, for example?
I'm going to Mangocon?
Check out SpiceCorps local to you. They can be iffy on content but the real reason you attend is to interact with people.
I'll do that. They do message me pretty frequently.
It's a full time job. You'll be working as much on this as you are at your real job.
I'll just add it to the list of things to do:
Wedding Planning
Full-time job
Studying for CCIE
Family Expectations
Networking
Inevitable Death
