I am heartless?
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So I saw this story today:
As a dog owner myself, I do feel sorry for there lost, however:
The driver didn’t stop, which is required by state law when a dog is hit.
Connecticut also has a leash law requiring a dog to be on a leash.
“People always speed down this road. They treat it as a highway,” Gifford said. “They just don’t stop.”
The Giffords aren't sure if a car or a truck hit the dog. Because it was dark they couldn’t see the driver or the license plate. There are no street lights on their road.
So you took you dog for a walk, after dark, on a road people drive down "like a highway", without a leash, and your surprised this happened?
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Would you want to find the driver who hit and ran if your child was hit while walking down the road at night with their father?
Same thing.
I get that there are laws but the driver was breaking more severe laws, speeding and hit and run.
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@DustinB3403 so your saying that human life it just as important as a animal?
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@DustinB3403 and we have no proof the driver was speeding (they most likely were) The family doesn't even know if it's a car or truck.... must have been very dark.
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I'm not trying to quantify one life being more valuable than others (not in this case anyways).
Just making the argument that wouldn't you want to know who the person was that killed your child if they were walking by you at night and were struck and hit?
Does it matter if it's a dog a cat or a snake? The pet was family, just like your child is family. Sure one is your blood but it doesn't make the other any less "not family".
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@DustinB3403 All very good points.
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@DustinB3403 said in I am heartless?:
Would you want to find the driver who hit and ran if your child was hit while walking down the road at night with their father?
Same thing.
A dog and a human are not the same thing. This is an animal.
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@DustinB3403 said in I am heartless?:
Does it matter if it's a dog a cat or a snake? The pet was family, just like your child is family
Dude, not even the same at all. Don't try to compare animals to a child.
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@Jason said in I am heartless?:
@DustinB3403 said in I am heartless?:
Would you want to find the driver who hit and ran if your child was hit while walking down the road at night with their father?
Same thing.
A dog and a human are not the same thing. This is an animal.
So your argument is that you wouldn't care if your dog was killed while you were walking with it, because it's an animal?
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@Jason said in I am heartless?:
@DustinB3403 said in I am heartless?:
Does it matter if it's a dog a cat or a snake? The pet was family, just like your child is family
Dude, not even the same at all. Don't try to compare animals to a child.
Why not, it's alive, it's aware that it is alive, it feels pain, and it grows up from a baby to an adult. Just because it can lick it's butt hole, and doesn't speak English should mean it's not worth caring about like any other family member.
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If you hit a kid, you get some explaining to do and a high possibility of legal issues. Hitting a dog with a car isn't illegal as far as I know.
If I hit a dog or cat, I would stop to see if it's ok. Things get a little more difficult when the owners are present. You have no clue how they are going to react and stopping may turn into a fist fight or big affair. You never really know how they are going to react to the situation. You can't go back in time and change the outcome and the owners are obviously going to do what they can for the animal? So my question is what does stopping do if the owners are present? nothing
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@IRJ said in I am heartless?:
If you hit a kid, you get some explaining to do and a high possibility of legal issues. Hitting a dog with a car isn't illegal as far as I know.
If I hit a dog or cat, I would stop to see if it's ok. Things get a little more difficult when the owners are present. You have no clue how they are going to react and stopping may turn into a fist fight or big affair. You never really know how they are going to react to the situation. You can't go back in time and change the outcome and the owners are obviously going to do what they can for the animal? So my question is what does stopping do if the owners are present? nothing
Stopping is the legal thing to do, at least in the states. So @IRJ do you stop when you accidentally bump someones car with your car while you're driving?
<sarcastic tone>
I mean come on the damage is done, and they're adults so they can take care of it right?
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@DustinB3403 said in I am heartless?:
@IRJ said in I am heartless?:
If you hit a kid, you get some explaining to do and a high possibility of legal issues. Hitting a dog with a car isn't illegal as far as I know.
If I hit a dog or cat, I would stop to see if it's ok. Things get a little more difficult when the owners are present. You have no clue how they are going to react and stopping may turn into a fist fight or big affair. You never really know how they are going to react to the situation. You can't go back in time and change the outcome and the owners are obviously going to do what they can for the animal? So my question is what does stopping do if the owners are present? nothing
Stopping is the legal thing to do, at least in the states. So @IRJ do you stop when you accidentally bump someones car with your car while you're driving?
Again that is totally different than hitting an animal. You are really out in left field with these comparisons
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@DustinB3403 said in I am heartless?:
Stopping is the legal thing to do, at least in the states.
Only if it's a dog, and the reason is stupid. Dogs are consider "property".
Cats you can run over all day and drive off (legally, anyways)
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That's my point @aaronstuder, if you cause property damage you have to stop.
Dogs are property, that is alive.
So why does @IRJ think it's ok to keep going on with his day?
I wonder if @RamblingBiped has anything on the topic.
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@IRJ said in I am heartless?:
@DustinB3403 said in I am heartless?:
@IRJ said in I am heartless?:
If you hit a kid, you get some explaining to do and a high possibility of legal issues. Hitting a dog with a car isn't illegal as far as I know.
If I hit a dog or cat, I would stop to see if it's ok. Things get a little more difficult when the owners are present. You have no clue how they are going to react and stopping may turn into a fist fight or big affair. You never really know how they are going to react to the situation. You can't go back in time and change the outcome and the owners are obviously going to do what they can for the animal? So my question is what does stopping do if the owners are present? nothing
Stopping is the legal thing to do, at least in the states. So @IRJ do you stop when you accidentally bump someones car with your car while you're driving?
Again that is totally different than hitting an animal. You are really out in left field with these comparisons
Left field my ass. Let someone run over your dog with their car and see if you don't want to find out who did it.
You're full of shit if you think you wouldn't.
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@DustinB3403 said in I am heartless?:
@IRJ said in I am heartless?:
If you hit a kid, you get some explaining to do and a high possibility of legal issues. Hitting a dog with a car isn't illegal as far as I know.
If I hit a dog or cat, I would stop to see if it's ok. Things get a little more difficult when the owners are present. You have no clue how they are going to react and stopping may turn into a fist fight or big affair. You never really know how they are going to react to the situation. You can't go back in time and change the outcome and the owners are obviously going to do what they can for the animal? So my question is what does stopping do if the owners are present? nothing
Stopping is the legal thing to do, at least in the states. So @IRJ do you stop when you accidentally bump someones car with your car while you're driving?
<sarcastic tone>
I mean come on the damage is done, and they're adults so they can take care of it right?
</st>What possible help can you offer? you are driving at night and all the sudden a dog runs out in front of you. boom you hit it. It isnt your fault, but now you stop and all the sudden you have a confrontation.
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@IRJ said in I am heartless?:
@DustinB3403 said in I am heartless?:
@IRJ said in I am heartless?:
If you hit a kid, you get some explaining to do and a high possibility of legal issues. Hitting a dog with a car isn't illegal as far as I know.
If I hit a dog or cat, I would stop to see if it's ok. Things get a little more difficult when the owners are present. You have no clue how they are going to react and stopping may turn into a fist fight or big affair. You never really know how they are going to react to the situation. You can't go back in time and change the outcome and the owners are obviously going to do what they can for the animal? So my question is what does stopping do if the owners are present? nothing
Stopping is the legal thing to do, at least in the states. So @IRJ do you stop when you accidentally bump someones car with your car while you're driving?
<sarcastic tone>
I mean come on the damage is done, and they're adults so they can take care of it right?
</st>What possible help can you offer? you are driving at night and all the sudden a child runs out in front of you. boom you hit it. It isnt your fault, but now you stop and all the sudden you have a confrontation.
I replaced dog with child. Tell me how you aren't responsible enough to stop in this case. Honestly.
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@DustinB3403 said in I am heartless?:
@IRJ said in I am heartless?:
@DustinB3403 said in I am heartless?:
@IRJ said in I am heartless?:
If you hit a kid, you get some explaining to do and a high possibility of legal issues. Hitting a dog with a car isn't illegal as far as I know.
If I hit a dog or cat, I would stop to see if it's ok. Things get a little more difficult when the owners are present. You have no clue how they are going to react and stopping may turn into a fist fight or big affair. You never really know how they are going to react to the situation. You can't go back in time and change the outcome and the owners are obviously going to do what they can for the animal? So my question is what does stopping do if the owners are present? nothing
Stopping is the legal thing to do, at least in the states. So @IRJ do you stop when you accidentally bump someones car with your car while you're driving?
Again that is totally different than hitting an animal. You are really out in left field with these comparisons
Left field my ass. Let someone run over your dog with their car and see if you don't want to find out who did it.
You're full of shit if you think you wouldn't.
You're acting like the drive went off road in rage and plowed over the dog, then went in reverse over it again and repeated this process 10 times. It was at night on a road with a fast speed limit and the dog wasnt on a leash.
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@IRJ said in I am heartless?:
@DustinB3403 said in I am heartless?:
@IRJ said in I am heartless?:
@DustinB3403 said in I am heartless?:
@IRJ said in I am heartless?:
If you hit a kid, you get some explaining to do and a high possibility of legal issues. Hitting a dog with a car isn't illegal as far as I know.
If I hit a dog or cat, I would stop to see if it's ok. Things get a little more difficult when the owners are present. You have no clue how they are going to react and stopping may turn into a fist fight or big affair. You never really know how they are going to react to the situation. You can't go back in time and change the outcome and the owners are obviously going to do what they can for the animal? So my question is what does stopping do if the owners are present? nothing
Stopping is the legal thing to do, at least in the states. So @IRJ do you stop when you accidentally bump someones car with your car while you're driving?
Again that is totally different than hitting an animal. You are really out in left field with these comparisons
Left field my ass. Let someone run over your dog with their car and see if you don't want to find out who did it.
You're full of shit if you think you wouldn't.
You're acting like the drive went off road in rage and plowed over the dog, then went in reverse over it again and repeated this process 10 times. It was at night on a road with a fast speed limit and the dog wasnt on a leash.
No I'm not.
I'm acting like a responsible being who, if I hurt something living that I'd at least stop to see if I could provide any kind of help at all.
Like taking the owner and animal to an emergency center to try and saves the dogs life rather than being a cunt and just darting away.
