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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      If I could magically make every request go over HTTPS, that would be awesome. But I just don't know how to make that happen. The top ten sites, I assume, all are not communities, right? So while on one hand you can look at the world from that perspective, there also needs to be some understanding that it's a different animal as well. Google and Facebook are different in many ways than ML. Similar in some ways too. But they definitely can do things that we cannot. And vice versa.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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        @aaronstuder said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        I'm confused by the use of the term default. It's certainly as much the default here as anything else.

        a preselected option adopted by a computer program or other mechanism when no alternative is specified by the user or programmer.

        Sure. And we have that, don't we? Since the end user has no choice but to select one, there is no concept of default in web protocols. So default can't be used in a discussion of HTTP vs HTTPS.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          AFAIK, there are only two ways to have a HTTP vs HTTPS work.

          • Standard. Both HTTP and HTTPS are available. The user selects the one that they want (or they allow their browser to choose for them which is the same thing as the browser is the user to us) and they get what they want.
          • Forced. Where the web server only provides one or the other, period, no matter what the user / or user agent requests.

          Is there some additional possibility of which I am not aware?

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

            AFAIK, there are only two ways to have a HTTP vs HTTPS work.

            • Standard. Both HTTP and HTTPS are available. The user selects the one that they want (or they allow their browser to choose for them which is the same thing as the browser is the user to us) and they get what they want.
            • Forced. Where the web server only provides one or the other, period, no matter what the user / or user agent requests.

            Is there some additional possibility of which I am not aware?

            Yes

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              Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller The only error you are getting is mixed content, however imgur, and gravatar are already using HTTPS, proving my point that many sites are moving to HTTPS.

              Seems to me only thing that is braking it is the rackcdn.com links - which could be fixed with a simple find replace.

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                Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said):

                Imgur is, I think, the easiest fix.

                There is nothing to fix, there already using HTTPS - see my post above.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                  @aaronstuder said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

                  Seems to me only thing that is braking it is the rackcdn.com links - which could be fixed with a simple find replace.

                  Tried that and HTTPS links don't work. Do you see them working if you try that manually? Because if failed in tests here.

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                    Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller Redirects in the VirtualHost section. A quick example from my now well secured default CentOS Apache page 😛

                      RewriteEngine on
                      RewriteCond %{SERVER_NAME} =www.travisdh1.net [OR]
                      RewriteCond %{SERVER_NAME} =travisdh1.net
                      RewriteRule ^ https://%{SERVER_NAME}%{REQUEST_URI} [END,QSA,R=permanent]
                      
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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Anyone (probably @JaredBusch ) know if there is a way to force HTTPS from CloudFlare? If we can force it there, it would make sense (e.g. a CF managed redirect.) Seems like an easy thing to do there, but I don't see it in the interface.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          I want to know where Gravatar avatar links are coming from as there is no Gravatar plugin!

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                            Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller Yes, just use a page rule.

                            https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200170536-How-do-I-redirect-all-visitors-to-HTTPS-SSL-

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                              Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

                              I want to know where Gravatar avatar links are coming from as there is no Gravatar plugin!

                              Not sure. I used a SEO scanner to get all external links on mangolassi.it

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                                last edited by

                                @aaronstuder said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

                                @scottalanmiller Yes, just use a page rule.

                                https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200170536-How-do-I-redirect-all-visitors-to-HTTPS-SSL-

                                Excellent, thanks.

                                Anyone have any thoughts on what damage this might cause? Not going to test here first, of course, but want more eyeballs / greycells pondering what might go wrong. Seems like we could just turn this on, right?

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                                  Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller I have over many sites using it right now with no issues.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    http://21e0807cedce0f3145d0-a2bfed9a52e3055ccb3a48938906d1fd.r85.cf5.rackcdn.com/giphy-facebook_s.jpg

                                    https://21e0807cedce0f3145d0-a2bfed9a52e3055ccb3a48938906d1fd.r85.cf5.rackcdn.com/giphy-facebook_s.jpg

                                    There is a test with the RackCDN content. Sadly, the HTTP just works, the HTTPS does not. That's going to be the big challenge.

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                                      Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller you can allows turn it back off.

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                                        Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in First Numbers from CloudFlare:

                                        http://21e0807cedce0f3145d0-a2bfed9a52e3055ccb3a48938906d1fd.r85.cf5.rackcdn.com/giphy-facebook_s.jpg

                                        https://21e0807cedce0f3145d0-a2bfed9a52e3055ccb3a48938906d1fd.r85.cf5.rackcdn.com/giphy-facebook_s.jpg

                                        There is a test with the RackCDN content. Sadly, the HTTP just works, the HTTPS does not. That's going to be the big challenge.

                                        And they both worked! LOL

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          In my above test witht he weird Homer face.... two images should have appeared. I linked the image twice. You can't see the raw post, of course. HTTPS doesn't work from RackCDN for us right now.

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                                            Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller https://i.imgur.com/S4c5IoH.png

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