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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Kelly
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      @Kelly said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

      If it looks like they're just trying to get validation for poor decisions and not actually wanting input then I drop it.

      The only issue with that is that places like SW (but this is a generic problem) start to become a marketing tool for vendors to show the vast pool of people who do things. "See these examples of customers who had a positive experience doing this thing that I am trying to sell you on?"

      Those threads need the evidence as to why their thought processes or decisions were questionable.

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      • thwrT
        thwr @scottalanmiller
        last edited by thwr

        @scottalanmiller said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

        @thwr said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

        @scottalanmiller said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

        @MattSpeller said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

        @thwr said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

        @MattSpeller said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

        @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

        Yet I don't feel that we've bashed, we've discussed their topics, and how to address the issues / initially configure the issues.

        This has been one of the exceptionally few things that bothers me about this forum. For my two cents I think we should keep the cross linking to a bare minimum and for interesting / news topics only. It does not "feel right" most of the time when I read about posts from there.

        This community can be a little... predatory... on the folks less experienced in IT. Well intentioned, absolutely. But a little vicious to the unwary.

        Well, this very community IS IT. Also, ML's NodeBB is a very fast paced system, that's another problem / feature.

        To take up some cludges for @DustinB3403, it was not him alone. We're all shaking our heads about all the quiz questions, @Dashrender called it "beating a dead horse", just for example.

        It's very fast paced and ruthless - which is I think some of this place's best qualities. Just need to be careful we don't "eat our young" as it were.

        Very true. No doubt that the pace is the strength. But boy does it put pressure on new posters. Especially if they are used to a slow platform and have no idea that things are basically instant.

        If you are used to communities where responses wait for emails to go out on a schedule, then people respond eventually... this place is SO different.

        That's still a problem for me. Wrote my above post 3 times because I need to follow the discussion, translate, adapt the post... rinse and repeat. Final post was way shorter than initially planned. Like 1/10th of the length.

        Good for improving English quickly! Feel free to post in German and slow us down.

        Very true. Aber ihr wollt nicht wirklich, daß ich hier auf Deutsch schreibe. Ohne Google Translator versteht ihr sowieso kein Wort. Auf der anderen Seite, ich könnte euch einen vom Pferd erzählen und würde immer noch Upvotes bekommen. Mh, mal drüber nachdenken 😉

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @Jstear And now David is deleting my replies.

          Awesome, so I can't even approach the OP publicly to let them know that other conversations are going on.

          David can eat a bag of *****

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @thwr
            last edited by

            @thwr said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

            @scottalanmiller said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

            @thwr said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

            @scottalanmiller said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

            @MattSpeller said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

            @thwr said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

            @MattSpeller said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

            @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

            Yet I don't feel that we've bashed, we've discussed their topics, and how to address the issues / initially configure the issues.

            This has been one of the exceptionally few things that bothers me about this forum. For my two cents I think we should keep the cross linking to a bare minimum and for interesting / news topics only. It does not "feel right" most of the time when I read about posts from there.

            This community can be a little... predatory... on the folks less experienced in IT. Well intentioned, absolutely. But a little vicious to the unwary.

            Well, this very community IS IT. Also, ML's NodeBB is a very fast paced system, that's another problem / feature.

            To take up some cludges for @DustinB3403, it was not him alone. We're all shaking our heads about all the quiz questions, @Dashrender called it "beating a dead horse", just for example.

            It's very fast paced and ruthless - which is I think some of this place's best qualities. Just need to be careful we don't "eat our young" as it were.

            Very true. No doubt that the pace is the strength. But boy does it put pressure on new posters. Especially if they are used to a slow platform and have no idea that things are basically instant.

            If you are used to communities where responses wait for emails to go out on a schedule, then people respond eventually... this place is SO different.

            That's still a problem for me. Wrote my above post 3 times because I need to follow the discussion, translate, adapt the post... rinse and repeat. Final post was way shorter than initially planned. Like 1/10th of the length.

            Good for improving English quickly! Feel free to post in German and slow us down.

            Very true. Aber ihr wollt nicht wirklich, daß ich hier auf Deutsch schreibe. Ohne Google Translator versteht ihr sowieso kein Wort. Auf der anderen Seite, ich könne euch einen vom Pferd erzählen und würde immer noch Upvotes bekommen. Mh, mal drüber nachdenken 😉

            I can tell you one from his horse

            Google translate fail.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

              @Jstear And now David is deleting my replies.

              Awesome, so I can't even approach the OP publicly to let them know that other conversations are going on.

              David can eat a bag of *****

              SW can't allow people to post links that steal their conversations to other forums.. they need to keep everyone there.

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              • thwrT
                thwr @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                @thwr said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                @scottalanmiller said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                @thwr said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                @scottalanmiller said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                @MattSpeller said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                @thwr said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                @MattSpeller said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                Yet I don't feel that we've bashed, we've discussed their topics, and how to address the issues / initially configure the issues.

                This has been one of the exceptionally few things that bothers me about this forum. For my two cents I think we should keep the cross linking to a bare minimum and for interesting / news topics only. It does not "feel right" most of the time when I read about posts from there.

                This community can be a little... predatory... on the folks less experienced in IT. Well intentioned, absolutely. But a little vicious to the unwary.

                Well, this very community IS IT. Also, ML's NodeBB is a very fast paced system, that's another problem / feature.

                To take up some cludges for @DustinB3403, it was not him alone. We're all shaking our heads about all the quiz questions, @Dashrender called it "beating a dead horse", just for example.

                It's very fast paced and ruthless - which is I think some of this place's best qualities. Just need to be careful we don't "eat our young" as it were.

                Very true. No doubt that the pace is the strength. But boy does it put pressure on new posters. Especially if they are used to a slow platform and have no idea that things are basically instant.

                If you are used to communities where responses wait for emails to go out on a schedule, then people respond eventually... this place is SO different.

                That's still a problem for me. Wrote my above post 3 times because I need to follow the discussion, translate, adapt the post... rinse and repeat. Final post was way shorter than initially planned. Like 1/10th of the length.

                Good for improving English quickly! Feel free to post in German and slow us down.

                Very true. Aber ihr wollt nicht wirklich, daß ich hier auf Deutsch schreibe. Ohne Google Translator versteht ihr sowieso kein Wort. Auf der anderen Seite, ich könne euch einen vom Pferd erzählen und würde immer noch Upvotes bekommen. Mh, mal drüber nachdenken 😉

                I can tell you one from his horse

                Google translate fail.

                Sayings in Google Translator don't work very well: https://www.dict.cc/?s=einen+vom+Pferd+erzählen

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                • thwrT
                  thwr @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                  @Jstear And now David is deleting my replies.

                  Awesome, so I can't even approach the OP publicly to let them know that other conversations are going on.

                  David can eat a bag of *****

                  SW can't allow people to post links that steal their conversations to other forums.. they need to keep everyone there.

                  Yeah, but deleting the whole post? He could remove the links and post an answer, for example.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @thwr
                    last edited by

                    @thwr said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                    @Dashrender said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                    @Jstear And now David is deleting my replies.

                    Awesome, so I can't even approach the OP publicly to let them know that other conversations are going on.

                    David can eat a bag of *****

                    SW can't allow people to post links that steal their conversations to other forums.. they need to keep everyone there.

                    Yeah, but deleting the whole post? He could remove the links and post an answer, for example.

                    removing the links still tells other people that someone is talking about these things elsewhere. They don't want that.

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                    • Minion QueenM
                      Minion Queen Banned @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                      @Jstear And now David is deleting my replies.

                      Awesome, so I can't even approach the OP publicly to let them know that other conversations are going on.

                      David can eat a bag of *****

                      SW can't allow people to post links that steal their conversations to other forums.. they need to keep everyone there.

                      This always has to be done via PM. No matter what forum you are talking about they don't want things to leave the community.

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                        Jstear @Minion Queen
                        last edited by

                        @Minion-Queen said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                        @Dashrender said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                        @Jstear And now David is deleting my replies.

                        Awesome, so I can't even approach the OP publicly to let them know that other conversations are going on.

                        David can eat a bag of *****

                        SW can't allow people to post links that steal their conversations to other forums.. they need to keep everyone there.

                        This always has to be done via PM. No matter what forum you are talking about they don't want things to leave the community.

                        I once had a post removed from Experts Exchange due to posting an answer and sourcing another forum, from where I found the resolution. They can do this, as it is in there Terms of Use of using the site.
                        https://www.experts-exchange.com/terms.jsp
                        You shall not engage in any of the following activities, which are strictly prohibited under the Code of Conduct:
                        Posting links in open questions that encourage Members to use competing sites.

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                        • thwrT
                          thwr @Jstear
                          last edited by

                          @Jstear said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                          @Minion-Queen said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                          @Dashrender said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                          @Jstear And now David is deleting my replies.

                          Awesome, so I can't even approach the OP publicly to let them know that other conversations are going on.

                          David can eat a bag of *****

                          SW can't allow people to post links that steal their conversations to other forums.. they need to keep everyone there.

                          This always has to be done via PM. No matter what forum you are talking about they don't want things to leave the community.

                          I once had a post removed from Experts Exchange due to posting an answer and sourcing another forum, from where I found the resolution. They can do this, as it is in there Terms of Use of using the site.
                          https://www.experts-exchange.com/terms.jsp
                          You shall not engage in any of the following activities, which are strictly prohibited under the Code of Conduct:
                          Posting links in open questions that encourage Members to use competing sites.

                          I would expect at least some education in IT. We all (should have) learned about correct source citation. Stating an information's source is not only valid but important IMHO.

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                            Jstear @thwr
                            last edited by

                            @thwr said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                            @Jstear said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                            @Minion-Queen said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                            @Dashrender said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                            @Jstear And now David is deleting my replies.

                            Awesome, so I can't even approach the OP publicly to let them know that other conversations are going on.

                            David can eat a bag of *****

                            SW can't allow people to post links that steal their conversations to other forums.. they need to keep everyone there.

                            This always has to be done via PM. No matter what forum you are talking about they don't want things to leave the community.

                            I once had a post removed from Experts Exchange due to posting an answer and sourcing another forum, from where I found the resolution. They can do this, as it is in there Terms of Use of using the site.
                            https://www.experts-exchange.com/terms.jsp
                            You shall not engage in any of the following activities, which are strictly prohibited under the Code of Conduct:
                            Posting links in open questions that encourage Members to use competing sites.

                            I would expect at least some education in IT. We all (should have) learned about correct source citation. Stating an information's source is not only valid but important IMHO.

                            I agree, but they didn't like it.

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                            • thwrT
                              thwr @Jstear
                              last edited by

                              @Jstear said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                              @thwr said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                              @Jstear said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                              @Minion-Queen said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                              @Dashrender said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                              @Jstear And now David is deleting my replies.

                              Awesome, so I can't even approach the OP publicly to let them know that other conversations are going on.

                              David can eat a bag of *****

                              SW can't allow people to post links that steal their conversations to other forums.. they need to keep everyone there.

                              This always has to be done via PM. No matter what forum you are talking about they don't want things to leave the community.

                              I once had a post removed from Experts Exchange due to posting an answer and sourcing another forum, from where I found the resolution. They can do this, as it is in there Terms of Use of using the site.
                              https://www.experts-exchange.com/terms.jsp
                              You shall not engage in any of the following activities, which are strictly prohibited under the Code of Conduct:
                              Posting links in open questions that encourage Members to use competing sites.

                              I would expect at least some education in IT. We all (should have) learned about correct source citation. Stating an information's source is not only valid but important IMHO.

                              I agree, but they didn't like it.

                              Doesn't speak for EE. I've always posted links to sources over at SW for example.

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                                Jstear @thwr
                                last edited by

                                @thwr said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                @Jstear said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                @thwr said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                @Jstear said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                @Minion-Queen said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                @Dashrender said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                @Jstear And now David is deleting my replies.

                                Awesome, so I can't even approach the OP publicly to let them know that other conversations are going on.

                                David can eat a bag of *****

                                SW can't allow people to post links that steal their conversations to other forums.. they need to keep everyone there.

                                This always has to be done via PM. No matter what forum you are talking about they don't want things to leave the community.

                                I once had a post removed from Experts Exchange due to posting an answer and sourcing another forum, from where I found the resolution. They can do this, as it is in there Terms of Use of using the site.
                                https://www.experts-exchange.com/terms.jsp
                                You shall not engage in any of the following activities, which are strictly prohibited under the Code of Conduct:
                                Posting links in open questions that encourage Members to use competing sites.

                                I would expect at least some education in IT. We all (should have) learned about correct source citation. Stating an information's source is not only valid but important IMHO.

                                I agree, but they didn't like it.

                                Doesn't speak for EE. I've always posted links to sources over at SW for example.

                                I found the message I was sent.

                                "Links to competing sites: A "competing site" is one that exists solely as a Q&A forum
                                Exactly. Think StackOverflow as a perfect example of a competitor. Something like Microsoft's forums; however, would be fine as they are not really a competitor. Basically just use common sense. No one is going to berate you for posting a genuinely useful link, but do bear in mind that EE doesn't want to loose business by directing all its clients to competitor sites 🙂

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  I am not even going to read this thread. @DustinB3403 I have called you out on this crap before.

                                  You are unprofessional and honestly childish in this regard.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                    I am not even going to read this thread. @DustinB3403 I have called you out on this crap before.

                                    You are unprofessional and honestly childish in this regard.

                                    You're entitled to your opinion.

                                    Ass

                                    :middle_finger_tone1:

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                      @Jstear And now David is deleting my replies.

                                      Awesome, so I can't even approach the OP publicly to let them know that other conversations are going on.

                                      David can eat a bag of *****

                                      They are explicitly not allowed to that, we've checked.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                        @Jstear And now David is deleting my replies.

                                        Awesome, so I can't even approach the OP publicly to let them know that other conversations are going on.

                                        David can eat a bag of *****

                                        SW can't allow people to post links that steal their conversations to other forums.. they need to keep everyone there.

                                        They aer supposed to allow it. They've stated so.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                          Ass

                                          :middle_finger_tone1:

                                          You are far from the only one try hold that opinion. But it also does not change the truth of what I said.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                            @thwr said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                            @Dashrender said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Is it bashing to ask what other were thinking:

                                            @Jstear And now David is deleting my replies.

                                            Awesome, so I can't even approach the OP publicly to let them know that other conversations are going on.

                                            David can eat a bag of *****

                                            SW can't allow people to post links that steal their conversations to other forums.. they need to keep everyone there.

                                            Yeah, but deleting the whole post? He could remove the links and post an answer, for example.

                                            removing the links still tells other people that someone is talking about these things elsewhere. They don't want that.

                                            Right, the most important thing is that they can't let people know that THEY are blocking links to other sites.

                                            This suggests that the panic is setting in.

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