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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller

      I posted it before I learned about posting with the "```" so it was probably hard to read.

      So that is it, eh?

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill
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        Can I unmount it while the server is running?

        AKA ... what should be the process for the whole job?

        1. Stop rsyslog
        2. Copy files from /var/log to the new location
        3. Unmount /var/log
        4. Delete /var/log folder
        5. Symlink /var/log to other storage
        6. Restart rsyslog

        Does that sound about right?

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by BRRABill

          Oooh, I think I am getting somewhere!

          lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   64 Jul 11 13:01 log -> /run/sr-mount/cbe8175f-43b3-3a64-cdac-3c1475aa2d01/xenserverlogs
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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
            last edited by

            The one thing to note is that in my system, XS7 used my entire array for VM storage. I boot off USB and only have one presented drive (Raid 5 SSD) in the server.

            After discussing with @scottalanmiller it was determined it was probably OK to create a directory alongside the .VHD files in SR-Mount and store the logs there.

            So far, so good. Nothing has imploded.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Other options would be to use LVM to create two logical volumes on that RAID device or use the RAID device's LVM system to do the same.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill
                last edited by

                Can you think of any reason why XS would object to creating a folder in sr-mount?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill said in How to Stop XenServer from Mounting /var/log:

                  Can you think of any reason why XS would object to creating a folder in sr-mount?

                  Yes, if it is scanning that directory for folders believing that the existence of a folder in that location implies something, then yes.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said

                    Yes, if it is scanning that directory for folders believing that the existence of a folder in that location implies something, then yes.

                    Would it be safer, do you think, to go with your other method of shrinking the volume and adding another volume for the logging?

                    I mean, I'd like to figure this out not just for me, but for all the people in the future who ML recommends XS on USB to.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      You've already done it, so I would just check and see how it is working.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said

                        You've already done it, so I would just check and see how it is working.

                        Seems fine.

                        I just like to, you know, check.

                        I figure someone here would know if it's an OK idea or say
                        NO FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD DO NOT DO THAT!!!!

                        We have other XS users ... what are they doing?

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said in How to Stop XenServer from Mounting /var/log:

                          @scottalanmiller said

                          You've already done it, so I would just check and see how it is working.

                          Seems fine.

                          I just like to, you know, check.

                          I figure someone here would know if it's an OK idea or say
                          NO FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD DO NOT DO THAT!!!!

                          We have other XS users ... what are they doing?

                          Just letting it log to the usb drive for now. Yes, I've got a copy of the current config that gets taken every day should the usb stick croak.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @travisdh1
                            last edited by

                            @travisdh1 said

                            Just letting it log to the usb drive for now. Yes, I've got a copy of the current config that gets taken every day should the usb stick croak.

                            Out of curiosity, how are you copying the current config?

                            Cloning the USB? Or making backups through XC/CLI?

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill
                              last edited by

                              So, things did not go so well overnight. (Note this is a test XS not my production box.)

                              Couple things happened. Not sure if it is a coincidence, or something more sinister.

                              I could not connect to this XS from either XC or Putty. You could connect through the local console.

                              The first thing I did, of course, was the check to see if the logging was still working. /var/log was sitting there with big fat red text. Hmmm. So I figured I would check the LV on /run/sr-mount to see when the logs stopped. Except that was no longer mounted there. Uh oh.

                              0_1468333526911_IMG_6791.JPG

                              I also noticed there seemed to be something wrong with the reporting of the devices.

                              0_1468333538528_IMG_6793.JPG

                              So, I decided to reboot the server, and hope it came back up. After taking a looooooooooong time to shut down, it did indeed come back up, but the same problem existed. The LV was not attached, and it had no network connectivity.

                              The LV still appears to be there, but I wonder if something else went wacky with this XS install. I mean, could putting a subfolder in the VM storage directory really cause this much havoc?

                              0_1468333809010_IMG_6794.JPG

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                I'm leaning towards something wacky, because even if the SR was detached for some reason, why would the networking not work as well?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Looks more like a crash than anything. So it is back up and working after the reboot?

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said

                                    Looks more like a crash than anything. So it is back up and working after the reboot?

                                    The SR is not mounted, and the networking is not working.

                                    So no, not working. Which is why I wonder if the entire thing just went south for some reason.

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      @BRRABill said in How to Stop XenServer from Mounting /var/log:

                                      @scottalanmiller said

                                      Looks more like a crash than anything. So it is back up and working after the reboot?

                                      The SR is not mounted, and the networking is not working.

                                      So no, not working. Which is why I wonder if the entire thing just went south for some reason.

                                      Something is wrong with that first lsblk output. System has crashed/been corrupted by something.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Well that sucks.

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in How to Stop XenServer from Mounting /var/log:

                                          Well that sucks.

                                          The good news is that this is Xen. Reinstall, import the storage repository, and import the configs, shouldn't take more than an hour.

                                          I'd be nervous about putting that into production till I figured out what caused the issue.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @travisdh1
                                            last edited by

                                            @travisdh1 said

                                            Something is wrong with that first lsblk output. System has crashed/been corrupted by something.

                                            It came back "normal" after a reboot, but obviously a lot of functionality was hosed.

                                            I tried running a dd on this machine the other day, and it was taking forever.

                                            After about 90 minutes I stopped it, and it had only done 15GB thus far. (Of a 64 GB stick.)

                                            Possible maybe the USB stick was going bad, and finally gave up the ghost?

                                            Is it possible cancelling (^C) dd would have done anything to the source USB stick?

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