Installing Exchange
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@Dashrender said:
FYI - Currently we limit non admin users to 200 MB of Mail, and admin are more or less unlimited. our current Exchange DB is 40 GB
Wow, that's tiny. Surely at that size it doesn't really matter what you do, you'll never have any issues? How do users cope with just 200mb?
Rightly or wrongly, I've always believed calculation tools always massively over-spec. I've always started small with the knowledge that I can expand later if I hit any problems (I never do). So for example, is there any reason you can't start with one DB and add another at a later date if you're unhappy?
I'm no expert, just an interested by-stander, by the way.
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It's kind of in a blogger's interest to make things as complicated as possible isn't it? The more complicated it is, the more he has to explain...
I find the same with cookery writers (my other interest) - why use one pan when you can write complicated recipes that use three?
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@Carnival-Boy said:
I find the same with cookery writers (my other interest) - why use one pan when you can write complicated recipes that use three?
Your other interest is cookery, or writing about cookery?
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@scottalanmiller said:
Your other interest is cookery, or writing about cookery?
Both. I cook and I collect cookbooks.
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@Carnival-Boy I definitely could start with one (that's what I have today) and expand if needed.
How do my users live with so little email - the reality is that they don't. One good thing about this is that email doesn't collect a lot of misc junk that will never be referenced again. If it's that important, it's saved off and put on the network - at least for the typical staff.
Email for those users is more of a notification board - and a way to send stupid cat pictures. If a user ever came forward and said they needed more email space, a process has been put in place to do an overview of what the user is saving and if it's legitimate, they are given more space. In 6+ years of Exchange, that has never happened.
Before that, users didn't have email access here. More and more systems are requiring unique email for password resets, etc - so we've opened email to everyone company-wise.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Your other interest is cookery, or writing about cookery?
Both. I cook and I collect cookbooks.
Ah. I thought you collected cookery. Cooking makes more sense
I'm sure someone collects cookery as well.
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I lived for nearly a decade with only 100MB for email. Honestly, I could function with 200MB pretty easily.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Your other interest is cookery, or writing about cookery?
Both. I cook and I collect cookbooks.
But do you write for the consumption of others?
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@scottalanmiller said:
I lived for nearly a decade with only 100MB for email. Honestly, I could function with 200MB pretty easily.
So can I - assuming I have cloud storage for files and things I use from anywhere.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I lived for nearly a decade with only 100MB for email. Honestly, I could function with 200MB pretty easily.
So can I - assuming I have cloud storage for files and things I use from anywhere.
Even without that...
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I lived for nearly a decade with only 100MB for email. Honestly, I could function with 200MB pretty easily.
So can I - assuming I have cloud storage for files and things I use from anywhere.
Even without that...
You then either never need any tools, or you know where you can acquire them without the need for you to store them someplace yourself.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I lived for nearly a decade with only 100MB for email. Honestly, I could function with 200MB pretty easily.
So can I - assuming I have cloud storage for files and things I use from anywhere.
Even without that...
You then either never need any tools, or you know where you can acquire them without the need for you to store them someplace yourself.
I rarely need tools but I sure have never stored tools in my email.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I lived for nearly a decade with only 100MB for email. Honestly, I could function with 200MB pretty easily.
So can I - assuming I have cloud storage for files and things I use from anywhere.
Even without that...
You then either never need any tools, or you know where you can acquire them without the need for you to store them someplace yourself.
I rarely need tools but I sure have never stored tools in my email.
That's an old habit of mine, long before cloud storage was a normal thing. While I do have around 1 GB of email - I'm sure I could delete 90%+ and it really wouldn't matter.
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What kind of tools do you keep in there? For tools, if they were not available online, it seems like FTP or HTTP would be good, too.
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I was looking over the options I put into the MS worksheet. I didn't change my level 4 users from 1 GB to 200 MB. After doing so, the sheet now says I should use one DB.
But I still don't know what Database and Log Configuration / Server vs DB and Log Volume Design / Server is?
At my current listed maxes
6 users max 10 GB
14 users max 5 GB
65 users max 200 MB
Max total = 143 GBSo I more or less know where the left side numbers are coming from, where are the right side coming from? Is the additional size for a restore LUN? The 70 or so GB isn't enough to restore the DB into, assuming it's maxed out.
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The storage design tab definitely seems antiquated as well. It does have the JBOD options that MS recommends when using DAGs, but when assuming bare metal install:
DB - RAID 1, two drives
Logs - RAID 1, two drives
Restore - RAID 5, three drives - WTF MS? are you really expecting me to use SSD?So the design is 7 drives.
As for a VM situation - the worksheet doesn't really seem to have any suggestions.
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It's their recommendations assuming you were cutting big time corners from 1998. I'm not kidding, that's where those recommendations come from.
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@scottalanmiller said:
It's their recommendations assuming you were cutting big time corners from 1998. I'm not kidding, that's where those recommendations come from.
yeah - this tool is damn near useless!
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Well, you can have every user in their own database if you really wanted to. That would be horrid but you COULD do it.
IMO, you seem to have a small exchange server so one database for the users is enough. If you are into it, a seperate one for the archives.
I would also have these drives:
- OS
- mailbox database
- logs
- archive database (if you're doing that)
I think I'm probably repeating what's already been said.
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@nadnerB said:
Well, you can have every user in their own database if you really wanted to. That would be horrid but you COULD do it.
i could only do that if I bought Enterprise edition - and that would be just crazy
