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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @alexntg
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      @alexntg we are talking about running one XP desktop here. Keep some perspective.

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      • alexntgA
        alexntg @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @alexntg we are talking about running one XP desktop here. Keep some perspective.

        It's currently a VM running in an otherwise fine server architecture. You're suggesting adding another piece of hardware and a different virtualization platform for a minor video issue.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @alexntg
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          @alexntg said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @alexntg we are talking about running one XP desktop here. Keep some perspective.

          It's currently a VM running in an otherwise fine server architecture. You're suggesting adding another piece of hardware and a different virtualization platform for a minor video issue.

          And a major licensing issue.

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            alexntg @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            @alexntg said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @alexntg we are talking about running one XP desktop here. Keep some perspective.

            It's currently a VM running in an otherwise fine server architecture. You're suggesting adding another piece of hardware and a different virtualization platform for a minor video issue.

            And a major licensing issue.

            All it takes is a single SA subscription or VDA license to fix. That's not major. The issue would still exist on VirtualBox.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @alexntg
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              @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

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              • alexntgA
                alexntg @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

                To start with, yes. The accessing device must be covered by either SA or VDA. If a Companion Subscription License (CSL) is added on to the VDA or SA for a user's primary device, they're able to use up to 4 additional devices to access the virtual OSE.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @alexntg
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                  @alexntg said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

                  To start with, yes. The accessing device must be covered by either SA or VDA. If a Companion Subscription License (CSL) is added on to the VDA or SA for a user's primary device, they're able to use up to 4 additional devices to access the virtual OSE.

                  So you can't remote into a VM on your own desktop?

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                  • alexntgA
                    alexntg @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @alexntg said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

                    To start with, yes. The accessing device must be covered by either SA or VDA. If a Companion Subscription License (CSL) is added on to the VDA or SA for a user's primary device, they're able to use up to 4 additional devices to access the virtual OSE.

                    So you can't remote into a VM on your own desktop?

                    Without SA or VDA licensing, there's no licensed usage of a Windows desktop OS on a VM, even if on your local machine. This is the reason I have SA on my home computer.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @alexntg
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                      @alexntg said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @alexntg said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

                      To start with, yes. The accessing device must be covered by either SA or VDA. If a Companion Subscription License (CSL) is added on to the VDA or SA for a user's primary device, they're able to use up to 4 additional devices to access the virtual OSE.

                      So you can't remote into a VM on your own desktop?

                      Without SA or VDA licensing, there's no licensed usage of a Windows desktop OS on a VM, even if on your local machine. This is the reason I have SA on my home computer.

                      But they sell Ultimate explicitly with that option. 4 VMs on your desktop, no SA.

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                        technobabble
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                        It's like watching a tennis match. Seriously this is good information for those of us looking at keeping an XP pc alive using VM.

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                        • alexntgA
                          alexntg @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @alexntg said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @alexntg said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

                          To start with, yes. The accessing device must be covered by either SA or VDA. If a Companion Subscription License (CSL) is added on to the VDA or SA for a user's primary device, they're able to use up to 4 additional devices to access the virtual OSE.

                          So you can't remote into a VM on your own desktop?

                          Without SA or VDA licensing, there's no licensed usage of a Windows desktop OS on a VM, even if on your local machine. This is the reason I have SA on my home computer.

                          But they sell Ultimate explicitly with that option. 4 VMs on your desktop, no SA.

                          Windows 8.1 is not available in Ultimate. It's available in RT, Basic, Pro, and Enterprise. Windows 7 Ultimate included XP mode, which was a single-instance more desktop-integrated VM designed specifically to assist with application compatibility issues. It did not include normal virtualization rights.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @alexntg
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                            @alexntg said:

                            Windows 8.1 is not available in Ultimate. It's available in RT, Basic, Pro, and Enterprise. Windows 7 Ultimate included XP mode, which was a single-instance more desktop-integrated VM designed specifically to assist with application compatibility issues. It did not include normal virtualization rights.

                            In the Microsoft official material it stated that Ultimate was a non-SA version of Enterprise that was identical in every way.

                            According to this chart the VDI licensing was the same between the two...

                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions

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                              alexntg @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @alexntg said:

                              Windows 8.1 is not available in Ultimate. It's available in RT, Basic, Pro, and Enterprise. Windows 7 Ultimate included XP mode, which was a single-instance more desktop-integrated VM designed specifically to assist with application compatibility issues. It did not include normal virtualization rights.

                              In the Microsoft official material it stated that Ultimate was a non-SA version of Enterprise that was identical in every way.

                              According to this chart the VDI licensing was the same between the two...

                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions

                              Can you link the MS official material? I'm getting my info from http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/d/4/3d42bdc2-6725-4b29-b75a-a5b04179958b/licensing_windows7_with_VM_technologies.docx

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