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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

      @scottalanmiller said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

      The standard tool for cloning is the dd command. No third party tools needed.

      Can you provide a sample step by step, as I've not used DD on linux before and the documentation I've seen has been "sloppy" IMO.

      Assuming the devices refer to the two USB devices:

      dd if=dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1
      
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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Danp
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        @Danp said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

        Can you use dd to save it to a file, which can then be pushed to a different USB stick later?

        dd if=dev/sda1 of=/tmp/mybootusb.iso
        
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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by

          Where was all this when I was talking about ways to do this remotely??

          🙂

          dd makes an exact clone?

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @BRRABill
            last edited by

            @BRRABill said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

            Where was all this when I was talking about ways to do this remotely??

            🙂

            dd makes an exact clone?

            Yep.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

              @DustinB3403 said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

              @scottalanmiller said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

              The standard tool for cloning is the dd command. No third party tools needed.

              Can you provide a sample step by step, as I've not used DD on linux before and the documentation I've seen has been "sloppy" IMO.

              Assuming the devices refer to the two USB devices:

              dd if=dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1
              

              Is sda1 the device being copied from or is sdb1 the device being copied?

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              • DanpD
                Danp
                last edited by

                Just guessing, but if = input file and of = output file

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @Danp
                  last edited by

                  @Danp said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                  Just guessing, but if = input file and of = output file

                  That is a rational guess.

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                  • DanpD
                    Danp @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 That's me... Mr. Rational. 😆

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Danp
                      last edited by

                      @Danp said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                      Just guessing, but if = input file and of = output file

                      Yup, that's what they mean.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
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                        How does dd (and CloneZilla too, I presume) work if the drive you are cloning to is larger.

                        Say I have a 32GB and clone to a 64GB. Can you do that? Does it just leave empty space on the larger drive?

                        I was wondering if you could clone to a larger drive, that I could clone my 32GB boot USB to a 64GB USB, THEN run the upgrade so it will use the larger partition sizes.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                          How does dd (and CloneZilla too, I presume) work if the drive you are cloning to is larger.

                          Say I have a 32GB and clone to a 64GB. Can you do that? Does it just leave empty space on the larger drive?

                          It's a straight copy, block by block. It doesn't care what size the drive is. It just writes to it identically. It ignores that the device might be larger. It will clone to smaller too and just fails when it fills up too quickly.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said

                            It's a straight copy, block by block. It doesn't care what size the drive is. It just writes to it identically. It ignores that the device might be larger. It will clone to smaller too and just fails when it fills up too quickly.

                            So what I want to do should theoretically work?

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @BRRABill
                              last edited by

                              @BRRABill said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                              @scottalanmiller said

                              It's a straight copy, block by block. It doesn't care what size the drive is. It just writes to it identically. It ignores that the device might be larger. It will clone to smaller too and just fails when it fills up too quickly.

                              So what I want to do should theoretically work?

                              You'd be able to write to a larger device, but trying to change the partitions by hand seems like a bad idea.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said

                                You'd be able to write to a larger device, but trying to change the partitions by hand seems like a bad idea.

                                I wouldn't do it by hand. I am ASSUMING (lol) that the XS upgrade would do that for me, as I think it says it does.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  Clonezilla has and expert option that allows you to set additional settings to grow the partitions proportionally to fill the larger disk.

                                  You can also restore to a smaller disk, as long as your data portion is smaller than the actual amount of space on the new drive, but it's much more difficult to get to work.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said

                                    You can also restore to a smaller disk, as long as your data portion is smaller than the actual amount of space on the new drive, but it's much more difficult to get to work.

                                    And requires a degree in wizardry! LOL.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                                      @Dashrender said

                                      You can also restore to a smaller disk, as long as your data portion is smaller than the actual amount of space on the new drive, but it's much more difficult to get to work.

                                      And requires a degree in wizardry! LOL.

                                      Where's my Wizard Hat?

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said

                                        It's a straight copy, block by block. It doesn't care what size the drive is. It just writes to it identically. It ignores that the device might be larger. It will clone to smaller too and just fails when it fills up too quickly.

                                        So I did this today, but ran into a problem.

                                        The 64GB USB stick is reporting as a 32GB stick, just like the original 32GB.

                                        Like there isn't even 30GB of unused partitions, it thinks the 64GB stick is only 32GB.

                                        I also tried the program @DustinB3403 mentioned in his writeup, but that program even warns this is going to be a problem.
                                        "Warning: Due to the forensic nature of image duplication by ImageUSB, please ensure that you select UFDs with a storage size similar to the image you wish to duplicate. For example, if a 2GB image is copied to an 8GB USB Flash Drive, the drive will only be able to use two out of the eight gigabytes of storage space. In this scenario, users will need to reformat the UFD in order to access the rest of the storage space."

                                        So is there really any way to do what I am trying to do?

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver
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                                          http://gparted.org/livecd.php

                                          This will allow you to extend partitions.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
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                                            You would still be able to make changes to the FS on the USB once its completed, but as I said, changing a live partition isn't a trivial task.

                                            With XenServer the installation creates two partitions, of which you should be able to easily adjust the size of the non-active partition. But the boot partition, that is a whole other issue.

                                            It's possible, but likely not worth the effort.

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