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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Danp
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      @Danp said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

      Can you use dd to save it to a file, which can then be pushed to a different USB stick later?

      dd if=dev/sda1 of=/tmp/mybootusb.iso
      
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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill
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        Where was all this when I was talking about ways to do this remotely??

        🙂

        dd makes an exact clone?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

          Where was all this when I was talking about ways to do this remotely??

          🙂

          dd makes an exact clone?

          Yep.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

            @DustinB3403 said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

            @scottalanmiller said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

            The standard tool for cloning is the dd command. No third party tools needed.

            Can you provide a sample step by step, as I've not used DD on linux before and the documentation I've seen has been "sloppy" IMO.

            Assuming the devices refer to the two USB devices:

            dd if=dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1
            

            Is sda1 the device being copied from or is sdb1 the device being copied?

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            • DanpD
              Danp
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              Just guessing, but if = input file and of = output file

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Danp
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                @Danp said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                Just guessing, but if = input file and of = output file

                That is a rational guess.

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                • DanpD
                  Danp @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 That's me... Mr. Rational. 😆

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Danp
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                    @Danp said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                    Just guessing, but if = input file and of = output file

                    Yup, that's what they mean.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill
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                      How does dd (and CloneZilla too, I presume) work if the drive you are cloning to is larger.

                      Say I have a 32GB and clone to a 64GB. Can you do that? Does it just leave empty space on the larger drive?

                      I was wondering if you could clone to a larger drive, that I could clone my 32GB boot USB to a 64GB USB, THEN run the upgrade so it will use the larger partition sizes.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                        How does dd (and CloneZilla too, I presume) work if the drive you are cloning to is larger.

                        Say I have a 32GB and clone to a 64GB. Can you do that? Does it just leave empty space on the larger drive?

                        It's a straight copy, block by block. It doesn't care what size the drive is. It just writes to it identically. It ignores that the device might be larger. It will clone to smaller too and just fails when it fills up too quickly.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said

                          It's a straight copy, block by block. It doesn't care what size the drive is. It just writes to it identically. It ignores that the device might be larger. It will clone to smaller too and just fails when it fills up too quickly.

                          So what I want to do should theoretically work?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @BRRABill said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                            @scottalanmiller said

                            It's a straight copy, block by block. It doesn't care what size the drive is. It just writes to it identically. It ignores that the device might be larger. It will clone to smaller too and just fails when it fills up too quickly.

                            So what I want to do should theoretically work?

                            You'd be able to write to a larger device, but trying to change the partitions by hand seems like a bad idea.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said

                              You'd be able to write to a larger device, but trying to change the partitions by hand seems like a bad idea.

                              I wouldn't do it by hand. I am ASSUMING (lol) that the XS upgrade would do that for me, as I think it says it does.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
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                                Clonezilla has and expert option that allows you to set additional settings to grow the partitions proportionally to fill the larger disk.

                                You can also restore to a smaller disk, as long as your data portion is smaller than the actual amount of space on the new drive, but it's much more difficult to get to work.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said

                                  You can also restore to a smaller disk, as long as your data portion is smaller than the actual amount of space on the new drive, but it's much more difficult to get to work.

                                  And requires a degree in wizardry! LOL.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                                    @Dashrender said

                                    You can also restore to a smaller disk, as long as your data portion is smaller than the actual amount of space on the new drive, but it's much more difficult to get to work.

                                    And requires a degree in wizardry! LOL.

                                    Where's my Wizard Hat?

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said

                                      It's a straight copy, block by block. It doesn't care what size the drive is. It just writes to it identically. It ignores that the device might be larger. It will clone to smaller too and just fails when it fills up too quickly.

                                      So I did this today, but ran into a problem.

                                      The 64GB USB stick is reporting as a 32GB stick, just like the original 32GB.

                                      Like there isn't even 30GB of unused partitions, it thinks the 64GB stick is only 32GB.

                                      I also tried the program @DustinB3403 mentioned in his writeup, but that program even warns this is going to be a problem.
                                      "Warning: Due to the forensic nature of image duplication by ImageUSB, please ensure that you select UFDs with a storage size similar to the image you wish to duplicate. For example, if a 2GB image is copied to an 8GB USB Flash Drive, the drive will only be able to use two out of the eight gigabytes of storage space. In this scenario, users will need to reformat the UFD in order to access the rest of the storage space."

                                      So is there really any way to do what I am trying to do?

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver
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                                        http://gparted.org/livecd.php

                                        This will allow you to extend partitions.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          You would still be able to make changes to the FS on the USB once its completed, but as I said, changing a live partition isn't a trivial task.

                                          With XenServer the installation creates two partitions, of which you should be able to easily adjust the size of the non-active partition. But the boot partition, that is a whole other issue.

                                          It's possible, but likely not worth the effort.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said

                                            You would still be able to make changes to the FS on the USB once its completed, but as I said, changing a live partition isn't a trivial task.

                                            With XenServer the installation creates two partitions, of which you should be able to easily adjust the size of the non-active partition. But the boot partition, that is a whole other issue.

                                            It's possible, but likely not worth the effort.

                                            So really the only way to go from the "old" partitioning scheme of 6.5 on my 32GB drive to the "new" scheme on a 64GB drive would be to move off all the VMs, and reinstall XS7 from scratch, then move them back. Is that what I am picking up here?

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