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    To Cable, or Not to Cable

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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      @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

      @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

      @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

      The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

      I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

      Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

      SAN is even worse.

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      • EddieJenningsE
        EddieJennings @dafyre
        last edited by

        @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        |can|β€”β€”β€”stringβ€”β€”β€”|can|

        I win security!

        *snip, hides scissors*

        Curses! Foiled by the script kiddie who googled how to compromise a yarn-based connection. πŸ˜›

        </silliness>

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        • EddieJenningsE
          EddieJennings @dafyre
          last edited by

          @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

          I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

          Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

          We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @EddieJennings
            last edited by

            @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

            I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

            Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

            We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

            Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

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            • EddieJenningsE
              EddieJennings @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

              @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

              @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

              @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

              @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

              The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

              I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

              Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

              We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

              Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

              I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                I think so.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                  last edited by

                  @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                  I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                  Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                  We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                  Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                  I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

                  Actually, that's exactly what's happening and what Dash meant. A "real" DB connection is via a DB protocol, never via a mapped drive.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                    I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                    Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                    We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                    Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                    I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

                    Actually, that's exactly what's happening and what Dash meant. A "real" DB connection is via a DB protocol, never via a mapped drive.

                    Exactly.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      Or to put it into really tech terms, it's a shared database file, a system lacking a DBMS.

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                      • EddieJenningsE
                        EddieJennings
                        last edited by EddieJennings

                        Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                        But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                          last edited by

                          @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                          But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                          Is it a surprise that it is crap?

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                          • EddieJenningsE
                            EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                            But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                            Is it a surprise that it is crap?

                            Nope. Just seeing learning more about exactly why it's crap.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @EddieJennings
                              last edited by

                              @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                              But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                              How old is your sage install?

                              We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Business class databases always have a database server. Even simple websites like a WordPress site use a real RDBMS. Basically, Sage and QB don't see themselves in the same category, or even remotely close, with a little hobby blog site.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Which, by extension, tells you a lot about what your accounting and financial staff thinks of the business.

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                                  • EddieJenningsE
                                    EddieJennings @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                    @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                    Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                    But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                    How old is your sage install?

                                    We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

                                    We've had it literally since the beginning of time (when it was still Peachtree Accounting). We "upgraded" from version 2017 to 2018 last week.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @EddieJennings
                                      last edited by

                                      @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                      @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                      @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                      Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                      But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                      How old is your sage install?

                                      We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

                                      We've had it literally since the beginning of time (when it was still Peachtree Accounting). We "upgraded" from version 2017 to 2018 last week.

                                      What's it called?

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                                      • EddieJenningsE
                                        EddieJennings @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                        @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                        @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                        @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                        Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                        But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                        How old is your sage install?

                                        We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

                                        We've had it literally since the beginning of time (when it was still Peachtree Accounting). We "upgraded" from version 2017 to 2018 last week.

                                        What's it called?

                                        ? Peachtree Accounting, as I understand it, was the original application. The company that developed it was bought by Sage, which rebranded the applicaiton to Sage Accounting [insert flavor here]. We use Sage 50 Quantum.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          Pervasive makes both PSQL and Btrieve products.

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                                          • EddieJenningsE
                                            EddieJennings
                                            last edited by

                                            Looks like Sage bought Peachtree in 1999, so we've been using this application since at least then.

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