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    To Cable, or Not to Cable

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    • EddieJenningsE
      EddieJennings @Dashrender
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      @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

      @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

      @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

      @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

      @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

      The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

      I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too 🙂

      Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

      We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

      Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

      I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

        I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too 🙂

        Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

        We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

        Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

        I think so.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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          @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

          I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too 🙂

          Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

          We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

          Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

          I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

          Actually, that's exactly what's happening and what Dash meant. A "real" DB connection is via a DB protocol, never via a mapped drive.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

            I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too 🙂

            Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

            We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

            Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

            I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

            Actually, that's exactly what's happening and what Dash meant. A "real" DB connection is via a DB protocol, never via a mapped drive.

            Exactly.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Or to put it into really tech terms, it's a shared database file, a system lacking a DBMS.

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              • EddieJenningsE
                EddieJennings
                last edited by EddieJennings

                Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. 😕

                But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology 🙂

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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                  @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. 😕

                  But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology 🙂

                  Is it a surprise that it is crap?

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                  • EddieJenningsE
                    EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. 😕

                    But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology 🙂

                    Is it a surprise that it is crap?

                    Nope. Just seeing learning more about exactly why it's crap.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @EddieJennings
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                      @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. 😕

                      But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology 🙂

                      How old is your sage install?

                      We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Business class databases always have a database server. Even simple websites like a WordPress site use a real RDBMS. Basically, Sage and QB don't see themselves in the same category, or even remotely close, with a little hobby blog site.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Which, by extension, tells you a lot about what your accounting and financial staff thinks of the business.

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                          • EddieJenningsE
                            EddieJennings @Dashrender
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                            @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. 😕

                            But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology 🙂

                            How old is your sage install?

                            We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

                            We've had it literally since the beginning of time (when it was still Peachtree Accounting). We "upgraded" from version 2017 to 2018 last week.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @EddieJennings
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                              @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. 😕

                              But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology 🙂

                              How old is your sage install?

                              We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

                              We've had it literally since the beginning of time (when it was still Peachtree Accounting). We "upgraded" from version 2017 to 2018 last week.

                              What's it called?

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                              • EddieJenningsE
                                EddieJennings @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. 😕

                                But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology 🙂

                                How old is your sage install?

                                We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

                                We've had it literally since the beginning of time (when it was still Peachtree Accounting). We "upgraded" from version 2017 to 2018 last week.

                                What's it called?

                                ? Peachtree Accounting, as I understand it, was the original application. The company that developed it was bought by Sage, which rebranded the applicaiton to Sage Accounting [insert flavor here]. We use Sage 50 Quantum.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Pervasive makes both PSQL and Btrieve products.

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                                  • EddieJenningsE
                                    EddieJennings
                                    last edited by

                                    Looks like Sage bought Peachtree in 1999, so we've been using this application since at least then.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @EddieJennings
                                      last edited by

                                      @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                      Looks like Sage bought Peachtree in 1999, so we've been using this application since at least then.

                                      Sure, there's no reason that Sage couldn't have converted it to a DBMS

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                                        last edited by

                                        @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                        @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                        @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                        @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                        @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                        Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. 😕

                                        But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology 🙂

                                        How old is your sage install?

                                        We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

                                        We've had it literally since the beginning of time (when it was still Peachtree Accounting). We "upgraded" from version 2017 to 2018 last week.

                                        What's it called?

                                        ? Peachtree Accounting, as I understand it, was the original application. The company that developed it was bought by Sage, which rebranded the applicaiton to Sage Accounting [insert flavor here]. We use Sage 50 Quantum.

                                        Wow, that website is a joke. It looks like a high school kid's project.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                          @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                          Looks like Sage bought Peachtree in 1999, so we've been using this application since at least then.

                                          Sure, there's no reason that Sage couldn't have converted it to a DBMS

                                          Every blog did it, pretty sad if accounting software can't.

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                                          • black3dynamiteB
                                            black3dynamite
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                                            Why isn't businesses going with something like Workday (https://www.workday.com/) instead of hosting their own like Sage?

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