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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @Joy
      last edited by

      @Joy said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @Joy said:

      Reading about "How to set up
      WSUS on server 2008 😑

      are you limited to a 7 year old OS on purpose?

      It was just a test-set up.

      Things have changed quite a bit... might be learning something for nothing if you do plan to deploy this on Server 2012R2.

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      • JoyJ
        Joy @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        @Joy said:

        @Dashrender said:

        @Joy said:

        Reading about "How to set up
        WSUS on server 2008 😑

        are you limited to a 7 year old OS on purpose?

        It was just a test-set up.

        Things have changed quite a bit... might be learning something for nothing if you do plan to deploy this on Server 2012R2.

        We will use windows server 2008.
        I was following this guide.
        https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd939859(v=ws.10).aspx

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @Joy
          last edited by

          @Joy said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @Joy said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @Joy said:

          Reading about "How to set up
          WSUS on server 2008 😑

          are you limited to a 7 year old OS on purpose?

          It was just a test-set up.

          Things have changed quite a bit... might be learning something for nothing if you do plan to deploy this on Server 2012R2.

          We will use windows server 2008.
          I was following this guide.
          https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd939859(v=ws.10).aspx

          OK, Mind if I ask why you are using a 7+ year old OS? Will the company not buy a new license?

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          • JoyJ
            Joy @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            @Joy said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @Joy said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @Joy said:

            Reading about "How to set up
            WSUS on server 2008 😑

            are you limited to a 7 year old OS on purpose?

            It was just a test-set up.

            Things have changed quite a bit... might be learning something for nothing if you do plan to deploy this on Server 2012R2.

            We will use windows server 2008.
            I was following this guide.
            https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd939859(v=ws.10).aspx

            OK, Mind if I ask why you are using a 7+ year old OS? Will the company not buy a new license?

            Well, Windows 7 is pretty good for production use.
            As you know, users get to used to it.

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender We're migrating this year from 8 to 12, it's not a small task. Only reason we're doing it is because we got a smoking deal on licensing from techsoup!

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @Joy
                last edited by

                @Joy said:

                Well, Windows 7 is pretty good for production use.
                As you know, users get to used to it.

                But that has nothing to do with what severs you have in the Datacenter.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @MattSpeller
                  last edited by

                  @MattSpeller said:

                  @Dashrender We're migrating this year from 8 to 12, it's not a small task. Only reason we're doing it is because we got a smoking deal on licensing from techsoup!

                  We're not talking about migrating, Joy is talking about deploying a new server to use for WSUS. Since this is a new server, I'm just wondering why she isn't doing it on Server 2012r2 instead of Server 2008.

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender I deployed an 8 this week because of licensing. Unless you're 12 on the hypervisor the licencing gets really screwball (which is why we bought datacenter(and the cause of our issues) )

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                    • JoyJ
                      Joy @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      @Dashrender We're migrating this year from 8 to 12, it's not a small task. Only reason we're doing it is because we got a smoking deal on licensing from techsoup!

                      We're not talking about migrating, Joy is talking about deploying a new server to use for WSUS. Since this is a new server, I'm just wondering why she isn't doing it on Server 2012r2 instead of Server 2008.

                      Hmm, I checked our list of licenses and I found out we have a lot of Windows2012 license.
                      Forgive me but, may I ask what's the difference on Win Server 2008 and Win Server 2012 when deploying WSUS? 😳
                      Since I will do this for the first time.

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                      • RojoLocoR
                        RojoLoco @MattSpeller
                        last edited by

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        @Dashrender I deployed an 8 this week because of licensing. Unless you're 12 on the hypervisor the licencing gets really screwball (which is why we bought datacenter(and the cause of our issues) )

                        I know it's wrong, but I put datacenter 12 as the hypervisor so I could just have at it. This is only a test environment, of course, but even on a T3500 desktop it runs pretty well. No license worries, though....

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
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                          @RojoLoco said:

                          I know it's wrong, but I put datacenter 12 as the hypervisor so I could just have at it. This is only a test environment, of course, but even on a T3500 desktop it runs pretty well. No license worries, though....

                          Nothing really wrong with it in my opinion. Installing it as core+gui for initial setup and then backing it down to core only after the hyper-v setup is done is still a solid hyper-visor.

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                          • RojoLocoR
                            RojoLoco @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said:

                            @RojoLoco said:

                            I know it's wrong, but I put datacenter 12 as the hypervisor so I could just have at it. This is only a test environment, of course, but even on a T3500 desktop it runs pretty well. No license worries, though....

                            Nothing really wrong with it in my opinion. Installing it as core+gui for initial setup and then backing it down to core only after the hyper-v setup is done is still a solid hyper-visor.

                            Ya know, I never thought to put it back to just core... but I use the host machine for stuff too. Q4 is when we get new hardware... dammit.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @RojoLoco
                              last edited by JaredBusch

                              @RojoLoco said:

                              but I use the host machine for stuff too.

                              That part is the wrong part. You are using DC, just spin up another Windows VM.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Just got back from our first load to the storage unit. Managed to get away with a little 5x5 unit for just $22/mo. Not too bad.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                                  last edited by

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  @Dashrender I deployed an 8 this week because of licensing. Unless you're 12 on the hypervisor the licencing gets really screwball (which is why we bought datacenter(and the cause of our issues) )

                                  The hypervisor has nothing to do with what you can use on top of it. Licensing from the hypervisor comes down purely to "virtualization: yes or now". What the hypervisor is never changes the licensing of Windows on top of it.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
                                    last edited by

                                    @RojoLoco said:

                                    Ya know, I never thought to put it back to just core... but I use the host machine for stuff too. Q4 is when we get new hardware... dammit.

                                    That's not a good design. It's "legal" because it is DC licensing but it would be very bad with standard licensing. But it is an anti-best practice in general. Remember the "host" machine is not the host, it's a control environment designed to only be used to manage HyperV, never should anything else happen there.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      I am trying to imagine a use for 2,400 3.5" HDD per year.
                                      http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1194915-where-to-order-hard-drives-in-bulk

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch posted in that one earlier, that was my thought too.

                                        in before NSA 😛

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          That is a LOT of drives.

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                                          • gjacobseG
                                            gjacobse
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                                            Think I am done for the day.. Shutting down so I can be here tomorrow....

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