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    • scottalanmillerS
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      It is a dreary but hot and muggy day in NY too.

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      • thwrT
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        And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

        Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

        SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @thwr
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          @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

          Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

          SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

          SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

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          • thwrT
            thwr @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

            Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

            SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

            SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

            Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @thwr
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              @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

              Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

              SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

              SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

              Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

              Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                  Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                  SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                  SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                  Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                  Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                  But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                  It could be that XS7 isn't supported on that hardware platform.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                    @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                    Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                    SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                    SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                    Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                    Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                    But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                    Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                      Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                      SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                      SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                      Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                      Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                      But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                      Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

                      I was under the impression that XS takes that into account when installing to SD, etc.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
                        last edited by

                        @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                        Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                        SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                        SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                        Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                        Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                        But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                        Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

                        I was under the impression that XS takes that into account when installing to SD, etc.

                        Nope

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                          Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                          SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                          SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                          Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                          Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                          But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                          Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

                          I was under the impression that XS takes that into account when installing to SD, etc.

                          Nope

                          So the question is @scottalanmiller when are we going to see a guide on how to easily redirect all logging to a remote location?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                            Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                            SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                            SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                            Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                            Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                            But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                            Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

                            I was under the impression that XS takes that into account when installing to SD, etc.

                            Nope

                            So the question is @scottalanmiller when are we going to see a guide on how to easily redirect all logging to a remote location?

                            Well the lab came online last night, so these things are much more possible now.

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                            • thwrT
                              thwr @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                              Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                              SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                              SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                              Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                              Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                              But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                              Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

                              I was under the impression that XS takes that into account when installing to SD, etc.

                              Nope

                              So the question is @scottalanmiller when are we going to see a guide on how to easily redirect all logging to a remote location?

                              Isn't Xen running on top of some Linux kernel? Something like rsyslog should do the job just fine in this case.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @thwr
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                                @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                                Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                                SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                                SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                                Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                                Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                                But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                                Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

                                I was under the impression that XS takes that into account when installing to SD, etc.

                                Nope

                                So the question is @scottalanmiller when are we going to see a guide on how to easily redirect all logging to a remote location?

                                Isn't Xen running on top of some Linux kernel? Something like rsyslog should do the job just fine in this case.

                                The LOGGING of XenServer is running on CentOS, Xen itself runs right on the bare metal.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  In theory someone tried the syslog redirection and it failed.

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                                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said

                                    In theory someone tried the syslog redirection and it failed.

                                    Someone, someone.

                                    I'd love to get some more info on this. It's been bugging me for some time now.

                                    Can we start a thread for it?

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                                    • thwrT
                                      thwr @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                                      Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                                      SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                                      SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                                      Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                                      Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                                      But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                                      Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

                                      I was under the impression that XS takes that into account when installing to SD, etc.

                                      Nope

                                      So the question is @scottalanmiller when are we going to see a guide on how to easily redirect all logging to a remote location?

                                      Isn't Xen running on top of some Linux kernel? Something like rsyslog should do the job just fine in this case.

                                      The LOGGING of XenServer is running on CentOS, Xen itself runs right on the bare metal.

                                      Ah sure, Xen is a Type 1 hypervisor... stupid me

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said

                                        Can we start a thread for it?

                                        Preferably sooner than later before my USB burns out? 🙂

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                                        • hobbit666H
                                          hobbit666
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                                          Just hit random on my MP3 folder.....listen to some tunes before home time (in 10mins)

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre
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                                            I'm wondering if this is true...

                                            http://fossbytes.com/rip-debian-linux-founder-ian-murdock-dies-probable-suicide-twitter/

                                            Has anybody else heard about this?

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