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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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      @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

      I don't think that RAID is a major concern. These files seem more like "it would be nice to have a copy around in case we want it, but it's not a huge deal if we don't". The high number thrown out there was 18TB, ot it could be 12TB is enough, or they might end up saying that they can make due with 6TB.

      There are inflection points. For low priority copies, at 10TB or less, a two bay NAS is basically unbeatable.

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      • art_of_shredA
        art_of_shred Banned
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        I also get the feeling that low price is an important factor. It doesn't seem that all players are convinced they really need to hang on to those files at all.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Investing in something more generally useful might be worth looking at. A dedicated NAS that has only one purpose might be a management pain long term.

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          • art_of_shredA
            art_of_shred Banned @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

            Investing in something more generally useful might be worth looking at. A dedicated NAS that has only one purpose might be a management pain long term.

            Such as?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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              @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

              I also get the feeling that low price is an important factor. It doesn't seem that all players are convinced they really need to hang on to those files at all.

              Could always just get a USB external drive and call it a day.

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              • art_of_shredA
                art_of_shred Banned @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                I also get the feeling that low price is an important factor. It doesn't seem that all players are convinced they really need to hang on to those files at all.

                Could always just get a USB external drive and call it a day.

                This needs to be available to multiple users and computers on the network.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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                  @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                  Investing in something more generally useful might be worth looking at. A dedicated NAS that has only one purpose might be a management pain long term.

                  Such as?

                  Something bigger than could be used for live files as well. At such a small scale paying for servers for each little need is not efficient. Why not grow the existing storage by that amount, for example?

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                  • art_of_shredA
                    art_of_shred Banned @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                    @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                    Investing in something more generally useful might be worth looking at. A dedicated NAS that has only one purpose might be a management pain long term.

                    Such as?

                    Something bigger than could be used for live files as well. At such a small scale paying for servers for each little need is not efficient. Why not grow the existing storage by that amount, for example?

                    Existing storage is a data drive in a user's desktop. I suppose that could be added to with another hard drive.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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                      @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                      @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                      I also get the feeling that low price is an important factor. It doesn't seem that all players are convinced they really need to hang on to those files at all.

                      Could always just get a USB external drive and call it a day.

                      This needs to be available to multiple users and computers on the network.

                      1 How does it have "needs" when they don't think that they need it at all?

                      2 anything it is attached to could share it out. Just attach it to the existing storage pool.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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                        @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                        @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                        Investing in something more generally useful might be worth looking at. A dedicated NAS that has only one purpose might be a management pain long term.

                        Such as?

                        Something bigger than could be used for live files as well. At such a small scale paying for servers for each little need is not efficient. Why not grow the existing storage by that amount, for example?

                        Existing storage is a data drive in a user's desktop. I suppose that could be added to with another hard drive.

                        So they feel that the "live" storage doesn't need a server. But the "unneeded archive" does? Something doesn't jive there.

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                        • art_of_shredA
                          art_of_shred Banned
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                          The graphics RIP software opens files that are currently on the lead graphics guy's hard drive, and sends them to the printer. That space will be too small going forward, so they want a storage space that will be adequate, that they can point the RIP software to, to grab graphics files. It's that simple. Because of the possible size they are thinking about providing, I wondered if a NAS was the best move for the buck. Maybe I'm not accurate on what things cost, but heading towards a server doesn't seem to be a cost-effective solution.

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                            If there is long term growth, how big will it get? Rack mount units are a bit more expensive.

                            SAM-SD is, of course, totally viable and a Dell R510 from xByte ....

                            Sorry for the quick threadjack...
                            What would be the OS of choice on the SAM-SD?

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @FATeknollogee
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                              @FATeknollogee said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                              If there is long term growth, how big will it get? Rack mount units are a bit more expensive.

                              SAM-SD is, of course, totally viable and a Dell R510 from xByte ....

                              Sorry for the quick threadjack...
                              What would be the OS of choice on the SAM-SD?

                              BSD or Linux.

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                              • art_of_shredA
                                art_of_shred Banned @FATeknollogee
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                                @FATeknollogee said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                                If there is long term growth, how big will it get? Rack mount units are a bit more expensive.

                                SAM-SD is, of course, totally viable and a Dell R510 from xByte ....

                                Sorry for the quick threadjack...
                                What would be the OS of choice on the SAM-SD?

                                See:

                                https://mangolassi.it/topic/6233/open-storage-operating-systems-for-sam-sd

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                                • gjacobseG
                                  gjacobse
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                                  https://mangolassi.it/topic/6231/what-is-a-sam-sd

                                  Which doesn't actual mention the OS,...

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @coliver
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                                    @coliver said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                                    @FATeknollogee said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                                    If there is long term growth, how big will it get? Rack mount units are a bit more expensive.

                                    SAM-SD is, of course, totally viable and a Dell R510 from xByte ....

                                    Sorry for the quick threadjack...
                                    What would be the OS of choice on the SAM-SD?

                                    BSD or Linux.

                                    Linux is not an OS

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                                      @coliver said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                                      @FATeknollogee said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                                      If there is long term growth, how big will it get? Rack mount units are a bit more expensive.

                                      SAM-SD is, of course, totally viable and a Dell R510 from xByte ....

                                      Sorry for the quick threadjack...
                                      What would be the OS of choice on the SAM-SD?

                                      BSD or Linux.

                                      Linux is not an OS

                                      Nor is BSD for that matter. I was referencing Linux based distributions.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        Scott has listed specific distros in the past that he recommends, but I can't recall off the top of my head.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                                          Scott has listed specific distros in the past that he recommends, but I can't recall off the top of my head.

                                          They're at the link.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
                                            last edited by DustinB3403

                                            I know I missed most of this conversation, but at the requested 12TB and for cheap, wouldn't a 4-6 bay synology in RAID6 be enough?

                                            Four 8 TB drives in RAID6 provide ~16.5TB of storage. The DS916+ empty is $600, add the four 8TB drives and you're talking only $1500.

                                            Which is really a low cost approach.

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