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    Toshiba OCZ PCIe SSD Z-Drive 4500

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    • thanksajdotcomT
      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller True. Very true.

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      • RoguePacketR
        RoguePacket
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        Always liked OCZ, good to see they are still crafting interesting product.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          what do you do in terms of safety? two of them RAID 1?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender You can do RAID 1 but typically you do nothing. One of these is as reliable as a normal RAID array. The need for RAID is greatly reduced.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller I'm sure you have an explanation for that. Care to share?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                @scottalanmiller I'm sure you have an explanation for that. Care to share?

                No magic. It's just more solidly made. Spinning drives aren't hard to beat in reliability.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  So you're saying they are kinda like RAID controllers themselves? So reliable that you just don't worry about them? Just be prepared with your backups as you always should be.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    Are we there yet with Enterprise SSDs? would it be safe to do RAID 0 SSDs?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      Are we there yet with Enterprise SSDs? would it be safe to do RAID 0 SSDs?

                      Enterprise SSD are extremely safe. Putting them in RAID 0 would remain reckless in most cases.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by Dashrender

                        Assuming you don't want to drop $16K for that OCZ, how do you go about getting a 2 TB single drive or larger? I've never understood has JOBD work, maybe that's the answer?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          Assuming you don't want to drop $16K for that OCZ, how do you go about getting a 2 TB single drive or larger? I've never understood has JOBD work, maybe that's the answer?

                          Big SSDs are starting to come on the market. PCIe super huge high end cards are the fastest and safest. They are the ones being designed around standalone use primarily.

                          With SAS and SATA attached lower cost drives you will typically be looking at using RAID still - but at far lower costs.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            I suppose the sites you're accustomed to working in are used to spending large dollars for fast arrays.

                            In the end it's all relative.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              I suppose the sites you're accustomed to working in are used to spending large dollars for fast arrays.

                              In the end it's all relative.

                              What makes the drive here interesting is that it could easily replace a 24 drive 15K array. It costs more but not tons more and uses far less power, is much, much faster, has less capacity but not by a ridiculous margin and fits into a smaller chassis which often reduces monthly rack costs.

                              Put it all together and even many SMBs might find it a potential solution.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                If you don't have a big database need, likely a PCIe SSD isn't for you. This is really for massive database acceleration primarily.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  If you don't have a big database need, likely a PCIe SSD isn't for you. This is really for massive database acceleration primarily.

                                  Agreed, I've never worked in situations that come even close to needing something like this.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    For a more normal SMB wanting a sweet database setup you would more likely get two SATA SSD in RAID 1 for under $600 and blow the doors off anything you've ever seen.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller Enterprise SSDs? boy I guess their prices must have fallen through the floor lately?

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                                      • Bill KindleB
                                        Bill Kindle
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                                        So far I've only been able to use 1 SSD. I was so pleased with the results that I will never use regular drives in a system I buy for myself ever again. Less moving parts = less chance of something failing. Not to mention the insane read / write increases you see. Having an array of SSD's would make for one sweet server, one that could be stood up for a while.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller Enterprise SSDs? boy I guess their prices must have fallen through the floor lately?

                                          No, why use enterprise. Consumer SSD in RAID 1 will be way better than what you are used to.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Bill Kindle
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                                            @Bill-Kindle said:

                                            So far I've only been able to use 1 SSD. I was so pleased with the results that I will never use regular drives in a system I buy for myself ever again. Less moving parts = less chance of something failing. Not to mention the insane read / write increases you see. Having an array of SSD's would make for one sweet server, one that could be stood up for a while.

                                            Same here. Love them. NTG went to all SSD desktops and laptops years ago. Such a good thing.

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