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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Bill Kindle
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      @Bill-Kindle said:

      And why WD Greens? I know the enterprise drives are a little more expensive but the performance gain IMHO is worth it when putting them into a Synology NAS.

      I would very rarely go to enterprise drives, but I would likely go to Red drives. They are the same as Green but the firmware is changed to work better in RAID arrays. Generally the price is within a few dollars. In a solution of this size, the cost difference would be like .001%, I would just do it.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        yes I completely forgot that I was going to mention this - your putting Green drives in a NAS? That's definitely not recommended. You should look at Red drives at least if not Enterprise Near-SAS drives.

        It's not horrible, before there were Red drives we used Green in this way and they worked fine. If there is a significant cost difference and you use RAID 1 or RAID 10, Green is perfectly fine. But if the price is close, just opt for Red today, IMHO.

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        • Bill KindleB
          Bill Kindle @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller The 2TB drives I got were about $180 a piece, but they are quiet, and I get good performance out of them. At the time I was purchasing, the Reds were a little more expensive.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Just checked Amazon quickly:

            WD Green 2TB: $80
            WD Red 2TB: $100

            Might be worth staying Green. That's a 25% increase.

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            • Bill KindleB
              Bill Kindle @Minion Queen
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              @Minion-Queen said:

              Did you pad your hours by at least 20% clients that have environments like this will have MANY other things to cause some scope creep as well as the "gotchayas".

              Last major quote I did, I took what I though it would take me and doubled that number. Just told that customer that this particular part of the quote would be seperate and subject to change, which it did, and turned out to be half of the quote because I over-padded 🙂

              They were happy as they thought they got a helluva deal, I was happy because I was able to do the work in less time than I had planned and still got paid well.

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                Carnival Boy @Bill Kindle
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                @Bill-Kindle said:

                I was happy because I was able to do the work in less time than I had planned

                There should be a special word to describe the warm, fuzzy feeling you get when you finish an IT project in less time than you predicted. I just wish I felt it more often.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                  @Carnival-Boy said:

                  @Bill-Kindle said:

                  I was happy because I was able to do the work in less time than I had planned

                  There should be a special word to describe the warm, fuzzy feeling you get when you finish an IT project in less time than you predicted. I just wish I felt it more often.

                  There probably is but it is likely a German word that we can't pronounce.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    Something similar to "Schadenfreude"

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                    • Bill KindleB
                      Bill Kindle @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Something similar to "Schadenfreude"

                      But it wasn't their misfortune, they still paid way less than I could have charged and they let me get some experience I hadn't gotten yet. It benefited both parties.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Bill Kindle
                        last edited by

                        @Bill-Kindle said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Something similar to "Schadenfreude"

                        But it wasn't their misfortune, they still paid way less than I could have charged and they let me get some experience I hadn't gotten yet. It benefited both parties.

                        I'm just saying a word along those lines.

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                          A Former User @Carnival Boy
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                          @Carnival-Boy said:

                          @Bill-Kindle said:

                          I was happy because I was able to do the work in less time than I had planned

                          There should be a special word to describe the warm, fuzzy feeling you get when you finish an IT project in less time than you predicted. I just wish I felt it more often.

                          This happens to me all the time... Said no one ever.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Just checked Amazon quickly:

                            WD Green 2TB: $80
                            WD Red 2TB: $100

                            Might be worth staying Green. That's a 25% increase.

                            I will double check with the vendor on the drive costs but I do believe it was close to this. That is why I specified Green.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              What version of Office are they moving from? 2003? If that's the case that shows they get a good long life out of those licenses, I'd definitely go with the OV instead because you will more than likely have to deal with reinstalls, and the value spread over 8+ years (yeah I know 2003 came out 11 years ago) the cost is pretty darned low.

                              They do have Office 2003 now. They do not care about any other benefits. They also disagree on the cost over time with machine updates and will go with the key cards. /shrug I tried.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @Bill Kindle
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                                @Bill-Kindle said:

                                The CAL's seem a little high. I think I paid a few dollars less using Open Business for my licensing. Have you checked into that?

                                I use a preferred vendor unless the difference is more than 5%. Then I still might, but it will be a tough call.

                                @Bill-Kindle

                                Also, what kind of battery backup are you going to be using for this new setup?

                                Damnit. I knew I forgot something.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  @Minion-Queen I made use of the Veeam announcement today too. One of their questions was would Veeam backup their desktops too. MY answer now was 1st Quarter 2015 it will!

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    @Minion-Queen I made use of the Veeam announcement today too. One of their questions was would Veeam backup their desktops too. MY answer now was 1st Quarter 2015 it will!

                                    The community wins again!

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