New Words That I Am Promoting
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@scottalanmiller May I have that word in a sentence? lol.
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller May I have that word in a sentence? lol.
I actually use it regularly.
A common one is: The company is losing staff rapidly, they are attritioning out.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller May I have that word in a sentence? lol.
I actually use it regularly.
A common one is: The company is losing staff rapidly, they are attritioning out.
Just saw it in another thread, lol. Thanks for that. 8-)
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Ha ha, I thought that it was on here somewhere that I had said it
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I think that's one of those words that, when used properly, would be hyphenated. Attrition-ing. That's how one normally turns a noun into a verb-like word when it doesn't really exist in the common vernacular as a verb.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Localest - Being the most local, having the greatest locality, the closest or nearest to something.
That's just grammar bad.
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@scottalanmiller said:
In case this one isn't in the dictionary it really needs to be attritioning. I use that one constantly.
Moar grammar bad.
It sounds more like attributing the way it's written.
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Attrition is a process.
We are winning the war by attrition
NOT
We are winning the war by attritioning the enemy
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@nadnerB said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Localest - Being the most local, having the greatest locality, the closest or nearest to something.
That's just grammar bad.
Is it? Making a most local is not really different from long having one for most close.
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@nadnerB said:
@scottalanmiller said:
In case this one isn't in the dictionary it really needs to be attritioning. I use that one constantly.
Moar grammar bad.
It sounds more like attributing the way it's written.
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Attrition is a process.
We are winning the war by attrition
NOT
We are winning the war by attritioning the enemy
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The addition of ing doesn't always make sense even though it sounds passable.Attrioning is a common verb in business, though. The reason that your example sounds wrong is because it is used incorrectly, not because the word isn't useful. You can't make someone else attrition realistically so it sounds strange. Try it like this...
We are losing the war due to the rate of our troops attritioning.
Or...
Our company is failing because our staff is attritioning too quickly. -
@scottalanmiller said:
Attrioning is a common verb in business, though.
The reason that your example sounds wrong is because it is used incorrectly, not because the word isn't useful.No. My example is correct use of the word.
You can't make someone else attrition realistically so it sounds strange. Try it like this...
We are losing the war due to the rate of our troops attritioning.
Or...
Our company is failing because our staff is attritioning too quickly.Hmmm, no. Attrition is a noun. ing CAN be used to turn nouns into adjectives but in this case, it doesn't make sense.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/attrition
Attrition - noun
- a reduction or decrease in numbers, size, or strength:
Our club has had a high rate of attrition because so many members have moved away. - a wearing down or weakening of resistance, especially as a result of continuous pressure or harassment:
The enemy surrounded the town and conducted a war of attrition. - a gradual reduction in work force without firing of personnel, as when workers resign or retire and are not replaced.
- the act of rubbing against something; friction.
- a wearing down or away by friction; abrasion.
Also, here: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/attrition
ing
Definition of -ING1: action or process <running> <sleeping> : instance of an action or process <a meeting>
2a : product or result of an action or process <an engraving> —often in plural <earnings>
b : something used in an action or process <a bed covering> <the lining of a coat>
3: action or process connected with (a specified thing) <boating>
4: something connected with, consisting of, or used in making (a specified thing) <scaffolding> <shirting>
5: something related to (a specified concept) <offing>Honestly, I don't think that the word has been understood by those business bods. If the word doesn't fit, restructure the sentence. Don't bolt on suffixes like accessories (That's something that a certain "cloud" provider would do to make their "service" sound like something).
- a reduction or decrease in numbers, size, or strength:
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@scottalanmiller said:
Is it? Making a most local is not really different from long having one for most close.
Yes, it is.
Local refers to area/neighbourhood.
Close refers to distance.
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Regarding your acceptance of the word attritioning/the origin to you, who said it?
Was it someone that you hold in high regard (or someones) or something that you have just picked up from around the place?
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Why do I ask? Well, if it's someone that you hold in high regard, then I don't think that I'll be able to convince you. -
@nadnerB said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Is it? Making a most local is not really different from long having one for most close.
Yes, it is.
Local refers to area/neighbourhood.
Close refers to distance.
One is general, the other is specific.Sure, but why should one have one form and the other not be given the same form? Why does the factor that you mention have an impact on the formation of the superlative?
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@nadnerB said:
Hmmm, no. Attrition is a noun. ing CAN be used to turn nouns into adjectives but in this case, it doesn't make sense.
It what way does it not make sense? I understand that not all nouns can simply become verbs, but when one has entered common usage with a clear meaning - what makes it not make sense?
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@nadnerB said:
It sounds more like attributing the way it's written.
Does attrition sound like attribute? If those two are not a problem, why do their verb forms become a problem? I don't see how they are even close.
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@nadnerB said:
No. My example is correct use of the word.
No, because you can't make someone attrition. You could say "We are winning the war by means of the attritioning of the enemy's troops."
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@nadnerB said:
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Definition of -ING
......1: action or process <running> <sleeping> : instance of an action or process <a meeting>
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Honestly, I don't think that the word has been understood by those business bods.But you provided the information as to why it makes sense. I'm unclear why you dislike the word or feel that it does not make sense. It makes sense when used correctly and the dictionary definitions of the formative noun and the -ing ending both fit correctly with the usage.
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I managed to find scientific usage of the word, along with the specific definition as regards teeth, from a journal in 1955 and the usage suggests that it is the correct technical verb that was already established and accepted at the time. And the usage specific to teeth clearly supports the general usage as no specific definition is needed based on the general.
So while not a common word, it meets the criteria for the Oxford English Dictionary, should anyone have access to a full OED to see if it is in there and, if so, how long.
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Given that the root of attrition comes from the Latin "to rub" and rubbing is not disputed, attritioning makes perfect sense from that traditional formation as well.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@nadnerB said:
No. My example is correct use of the word.
No, because you can't make someone attrition. You could say "We are winning the war by means of the attritioning of the enemy's troops."
Scott, you're usually an advocate of clear communication. This is not it.
Which is clearer?
"We are winning the war by attrition."
or
"We are winning the war by means of the attritioning of the enemy's troops."
