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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @coliver
      last edited by

      @coliver said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Minion-Queen said:

      Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

      Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

      I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

      You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

      Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

      I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @coliver
        last edited by

        @coliver said:

        @Minion-Queen said:

        Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

        Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.

        No, it doesn't make sense. There's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Minion-Queen said:

          Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

          Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

          I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

          You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

          Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

          Same here, audio and video don't work on the Fire products. Like they almost never work.

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          • brianlittlejohnB
            brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            re's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.

            hmmm... i've never had any issues with my Appletvs 😉

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            • Minion QueenM
              Minion Queen @coliver
              last edited by

              @coliver said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Minion-Queen said:

              Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

              Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

              I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

              You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

              Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

              I really like my Fire Stick haven't had any issues with it at all.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                last edited by

                @johnhooks said:

                The difference between 6.0 and 2.0 is ridiculous.

                The problem is, Android users always make claims like "oh, back then it didn't work..." which is exactly what next year they will say about this year. Everything with Android is an excuse. There is always a reason why "your" Android didn't work. Bottom line remains, it doesn't work. It's an excuse generation platform. Everyone has that "one magic vendor, one magic device with one magic app" that kinda works "for them" and they defend the platform as being awesome because that one use case works... sometimes.

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                • Minion QueenM
                  Minion Queen @brianlittlejohn
                  last edited by

                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  re's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.

                  hmmm... i've never had any issues with my Appletvs 😉

                  Me either I only use the Fire Stick when I can't get something on the apple tv and don't want to deal with Airplay.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @stacksofplates
                    last edited by

                    @johnhooks said:

                    @coliver said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Minion-Queen said:

                    Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                    Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

                    I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

                    You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

                    Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

                    I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.

                    We have two Chromecasts but my wife doesn't like having to get her iPad to watch shows. I also have a Roku stick and while it works the interface is sluggish and I need to hard reset it a few times a week.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
                      last edited by

                      @Minion-Queen said:

                      @coliver said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Minion-Queen said:

                      Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                      Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

                      I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

                      You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

                      Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

                      I really like my Fire Stick haven't had any issues with it at all.

                      We like the idea but are giving the Fire TV to dad as it is essentially useless to us. Nothing works on it. Half the time it just crashes. We have to yank the power on it every other activity that we do.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
                        last edited by

                        @brianlittlejohn said:

                        hmmm... i've never had any issues with my Appletvs 😉

                        Yup, we've always love the AppleTV. The one problem is that they won't play Amazon videos or we would be getting yet another AppleTV with which to travel. They work great. But they just lack the functionality we need.

                        So testing out the NVidia Shield this summer.

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                        • Minion QueenM
                          Minion Queen @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Minion-Queen said:

                          @coliver said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Minion-Queen said:

                          Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                          Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

                          I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

                          You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

                          Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

                          I really like my Fire Stick haven't had any issues with it at all.

                          We like the idea but are giving the Fire TV to dad as it is essentially useless to us. Nothing works on it. Half the time it just crashes. We have to yank the power on it every other activity that we do.

                          Huh I really don't have any issues with mine at all. Other than I like the apple tv interface so much better.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @Minion-Queen said:

                            Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                            Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.

                            No, it doesn't make sense. There's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.

                            I think a big problem that early Android had was a lack of a real mail app. The only sync option was either polling every so many minutes or IMAP Idle. There was no real push mail system for a long time.

                            There was some third party email for EAS but it was like $30.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @stacksofplates
                              last edited by

                              @johnhooks said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @Minion-Queen said:

                              Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                              Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.

                              No, it doesn't make sense. There's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.

                              I think a big problem that early Android had was a lack of a real mail app. The only sync option was either polling every so many minutes or IMAP Idle. There was no real push mail system for a long time.

                              There was some third party email for EAS but it was like $30.

                              Ughh Touchdown. I remember that. It was awful.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said:

                                @johnhooks said:

                                @coliver said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Minion-Queen said:

                                Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                                Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

                                I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

                                You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

                                Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

                                I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.

                                We have two Chromecasts but my wife doesn't like having to get her iPad to watch shows. I also have a Roku stick and while it works the interface is sluggish and I need to hard reset it a few times a week.

                                The Roku stick is slow. We have a Roku 2 and it's still chugging a long. The new Roku 4 looks nice, but not sure if it's worth $120.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @johnhooks said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @Minion-Queen said:

                                  Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                                  Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.

                                  No, it doesn't make sense. There's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.

                                  I think a big problem that early Android had was a lack of a real mail app. The only sync option was either polling every so many minutes or IMAP Idle. There was no real push mail system for a long time.

                                  There was some third party email for EAS but it was like $30.

                                  Ughh Touchdown. I remember that. It was awful.

                                  That's it!!

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @stacksofplates
                                    last edited by

                                    @johnhooks said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @johnhooks said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Minion-Queen said:

                                    Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                                    Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

                                    I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

                                    You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

                                    Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

                                    I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.

                                    We have two Chromecasts but my wife doesn't like having to get her iPad to watch shows. I also have a Roku stick and while it works the interface is sluggish and I need to hard reset it a few times a week.

                                    The Roku stick is slow. We have a Roku 2 and it's still chugging a long. The new Roku 4 looks nice, but not sure if it's worth $120.

                                    I like the idea of the sticks, small and out of the way. I don't have to have set top box dangling from my wall mounted TVs. The only one I don't have an issue with is the Chromecast... but again you need an external device to cast to it so that doesn't work all the time.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                      last edited by

                                      @johnhooks said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @coliver said:

                                      @Minion-Queen said:

                                      Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                                      Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.

                                      No, it doesn't make sense. There's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.

                                      I think a big problem that early Android had was a lack of a real mail app. The only sync option was either polling every so many minutes or IMAP Idle. There was no real push mail system for a long time.

                                      There was some third party email for EAS but it was like $30.

                                      The email app "worked" fine for a long time. But like phone calls and texts and everything else on Android, it would randomly and silently stop working and never alert you. It would keep reporting that you got no email until you rebooted teh device and found out that people had been looking for you for days.

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @johnhooks said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @johnhooks said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Minion-Queen said:

                                        Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                                        Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

                                        I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

                                        You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

                                        Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

                                        I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.

                                        We have two Chromecasts but my wife doesn't like having to get her iPad to watch shows. I also have a Roku stick and while it works the interface is sluggish and I need to hard reset it a few times a week.

                                        The Roku stick is slow. We have a Roku 2 and it's still chugging a long. The new Roku 4 looks nice, but not sure if it's worth $120.

                                        I like the idea of the sticks, small and out of the way. I don't have to have set top box dangling from my wall mounted TVs. The only one I don't have an issue with is the Chromecast... but again you need an external device to cast to it so that doesn't work all the time.

                                        I send stuff from my Chromebook a lot so I don't really notice it I guess. You can also cast your whole screen with your Chromebook which is nice.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @johnhooks said:

                                          The difference between 6.0 and 2.0 is ridiculous.

                                          The problem is, Android users always make claims like "oh, back then it didn't work..." which is exactly what next year they will say about this year. Everything with Android is an excuse. There is always a reason why "your" Android didn't work. Bottom line remains, it doesn't work. It's an excuse generation platform. Everyone has that "one magic vendor, one magic device with one magic app" that kinda works "for them" and they defend the platform as being awesome because that one use case works... sometimes.

                                          This is starting to sound like a rant on Windows - How much of this is the platform/OS versus crappy apps? I'm not defending Android (at this point) because mostly I agree - Even my Samsung S4, which was suppose to be awesome crashed on a regular basis (at least two times a month). I didn't nearly the issues making phone calls anymore. At least that problem seems pretty much gone.

                                          I give you the point that iPhones seem to be more stable - but they are definitely not the never crash, never have problem device either.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @coliver
                                            last edited by

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Minion-Queen said:

                                            Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                                            Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

                                            I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

                                            You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

                                            Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

                                            I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.

                                            We have two Chromecasts but my wife doesn't like having to get her iPad to watch shows. I also have a Roku stick and while it works the interface is sluggish and I need to hard reset it a few times a week.

                                            The Roku stick is slow. We have a Roku 2 and it's still chugging a long. The new Roku 4 looks nice, but not sure if it's worth $120.

                                            I like the idea of the sticks, small and out of the way. I don't have to have set top box dangling from my wall mounted TVs. The only one I don't have an issue with is the Chromecast... but again you need an external device to cast to it so that doesn't work all the time.

                                            I love the idea... and for travel even moreso. But I hate how they dangle. Other than the space in the luggage, I prefer the small set top boxes. Easier to set up and place. And you can wire them up.

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