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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
      last edited by

      I mean, in theory, the array has instructions for rebuilding, right?

      It has a plan of what to d, block by block. It just pauses on reboot.

      Now, if you unplugged it, yeah I could see an issue there.

      But isn't it possible it is smart enough to just pick back up?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        Sure it is, but it is still a risk. And I've luckily never had to reboot while replacing a drive, different problem from you, so this has never come up fort me. My systems just stay up and running.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by

          I did a few Google search. It seems like other places (including Adaptec) also say rebooting a rebuilding array is perfectly safe.

          Not arguing with anyone, just questioning why the people making the RAID hardware seem to think it is OK, but ML does not.

          http://blog.adaptec.com/2015/05/13/a-technical-issue-regarding-raid-buildrebuild/

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

            I did a few Google search. It seems like other places (including Adaptec) also say rebooting a rebuilding array is perfectly safe.

            Of course they do, you are reading their marketing.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              VMware advocates moving running workloads around, too. But you should fire anyone who did it in production based on that recommendation. I've seen people do that thinking that they would not get caught because "Vmware said it was safe" and brought down a bank because of it (hint: it wasn't safe.)

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                @scottalanmiller said

                That means that the PERC has failed. That's a different issue.

                Are we back to that?

                I mean, it's definitely on the table. Just not sure why all of a sudden you think that's so likely.

                Because you said that it was rebuilding. The PERC should remain up and viable even without disks attached to it. You can continue to manage it online through the iDRAC or a VM that isn't using those drives.

                You do not manage Dell PERC through iDRAC or a VM.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                  @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                  I did a few Google search. It seems like other places (including Adaptec) also say rebooting a rebuilding array is perfectly safe.

                  Of course they do, you are reading their marketing.

                  I've done it many times over the years and never once had a failure. Yes it is a risk, but it is also adding downtime waiting for a rebuild to happen.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    Do you mean that the OMSA can't manage the PERC?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      Does this not work for the iDRAC?

                      http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/extras/m/white_papers/20438108/

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                        Do you mean that the OMSA can't manage the PERC?

                        The iDRAC is not OMSA they are different.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          OMSA can do things.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Right, using OMSA in the Dom0 should work fine for working with the PERC. Unless I've missed something.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                Right, using OMSA in the Dom0 should work fine for working with the PERC. Unless I've missed something.

                                Yes, but my point was you claimed to use iDRAC.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  I was going to log into the iDRAC and get a screen there to show the difference, but for some reason it is not pulling an address..

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch
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                                    You people need to quit making me work!

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                      Do you mean that the OMSA can't manage the PERC?

                                      The iDRAC is not OMSA they are different.

                                      The OMSA was in reference to managing via the Dom0.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                        Right, using OMSA in the Dom0 should work fine for working with the PERC. Unless I've missed something.

                                        Yes, but my point was you claimed to use iDRAC.

                                        I claimed both, but as two separate means of doing it.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          That is what I was saying, that the iDRAC is pretty powerless with storage.

                                          I'll work on getting OMSA on the XS.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said

                                            No, I missed it. How slow was it?

                                            So is somewhat slow speed OK for booting/updating off USB2?

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