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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said

      You can clone with it still in.

      We were discussing this in the USB cloning thread.

      Tell us more!

      (WE also discussed using CloneZilla, but for people unfamiliar with how it works, and trying to clone two identical drives, that might get messy. I guess you could always use two different types of drives of the same size to make it easier.)

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        The standard tool for cloning is the dd command. No third party tools needed.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

          The standard tool for cloning is the dd command. No third party tools needed.

          Can you provide a sample step by step, as I've not used DD on linux before and the documentation I've seen has been "sloppy" IMO.

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          • DanpD
            Danp
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            Can you use dd to save it to a file, which can then be pushed to a different USB stick later?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Danp
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              @Danp said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

              Can you use dd to save it to a file, which can then be pushed to a different USB stick later?

              Yes. The "file" would be what you'd call an ISO file in the Windows world.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                @scottalanmiller said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                The standard tool for cloning is the dd command. No third party tools needed.

                Can you provide a sample step by step, as I've not used DD on linux before and the documentation I've seen has been "sloppy" IMO.

                Assuming the devices refer to the two USB devices:

                dd if=dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1
                
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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Danp
                  last edited by

                  @Danp said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                  Can you use dd to save it to a file, which can then be pushed to a different USB stick later?

                  dd if=dev/sda1 of=/tmp/mybootusb.iso
                  
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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    Where was all this when I was talking about ways to do this remotely??

                    🙂

                    dd makes an exact clone?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      @BRRABill said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                      Where was all this when I was talking about ways to do this remotely??

                      🙂

                      dd makes an exact clone?

                      Yep.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                        The standard tool for cloning is the dd command. No third party tools needed.

                        Can you provide a sample step by step, as I've not used DD on linux before and the documentation I've seen has been "sloppy" IMO.

                        Assuming the devices refer to the two USB devices:

                        dd if=dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1
                        

                        Is sda1 the device being copied from or is sdb1 the device being copied?

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                        • DanpD
                          Danp
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                          Just guessing, but if = input file and of = output file

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Danp
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                            @Danp said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                            Just guessing, but if = input file and of = output file

                            That is a rational guess.

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                            • DanpD
                              Danp @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 That's me... Mr. Rational. 😆

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Danp
                                last edited by

                                @Danp said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                                Just guessing, but if = input file and of = output file

                                Yup, that's what they mean.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
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                                  How does dd (and CloneZilla too, I presume) work if the drive you are cloning to is larger.

                                  Say I have a 32GB and clone to a 64GB. Can you do that? Does it just leave empty space on the larger drive?

                                  I was wondering if you could clone to a larger drive, that I could clone my 32GB boot USB to a 64GB USB, THEN run the upgrade so it will use the larger partition sizes.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                                    How does dd (and CloneZilla too, I presume) work if the drive you are cloning to is larger.

                                    Say I have a 32GB and clone to a 64GB. Can you do that? Does it just leave empty space on the larger drive?

                                    It's a straight copy, block by block. It doesn't care what size the drive is. It just writes to it identically. It ignores that the device might be larger. It will clone to smaller too and just fails when it fills up too quickly.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said

                                      It's a straight copy, block by block. It doesn't care what size the drive is. It just writes to it identically. It ignores that the device might be larger. It will clone to smaller too and just fails when it fills up too quickly.

                                      So what I want to do should theoretically work?

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said in Cloning XenServer on USB or SD:

                                        @scottalanmiller said

                                        It's a straight copy, block by block. It doesn't care what size the drive is. It just writes to it identically. It ignores that the device might be larger. It will clone to smaller too and just fails when it fills up too quickly.

                                        So what I want to do should theoretically work?

                                        You'd be able to write to a larger device, but trying to change the partitions by hand seems like a bad idea.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said

                                          You'd be able to write to a larger device, but trying to change the partitions by hand seems like a bad idea.

                                          I wouldn't do it by hand. I am ASSUMING (lol) that the XS upgrade would do that for me, as I think it says it does.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
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                                            Clonezilla has and expert option that allows you to set additional settings to grow the partitions proportionally to fill the larger disk.

                                            You can also restore to a smaller disk, as long as your data portion is smaller than the actual amount of space on the new drive, but it's much more difficult to get to work.

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