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    • art_of_shredA
      art_of_shred Banned
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      @Minion-Queen just informed me that the time constraint is a Voice Pulse thing, not Vitelity... part of why she likes Vitelity better. 🙂

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @coliver
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        @coliver said:

        Does Vitelity have a limit on the number of calls per time unit that can be placed? Like 3-5 calls per second but you can have 10 simultaneous calls? I don't remember seeing that in the fine print but it may very well be the case.

        Man, that could be a big deal in a large organization.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @art_of_shred
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          @art_of_shred said:

          @Minion-Queen just informed me that the time constraint is a Voice Pulse thing, not Vitelity... part of why she likes Vitelity better. 🙂

          Ah, I knew I saw that when researching SIP Trunks. Wasn't sure which company did it though.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            So where you able to see time lines for times before you installed it?

            /me looks at the date range in the pretty picture...

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @JaredBusch
              last edited by Dashrender

              @JaredBusch said:

              @Dashrender said:

              So where you able to see time lines for times before you installed it?

              /me looks at the date range in the pretty picture...

              Doh!

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
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                @art_of_shred said:

                @Minion-Queen just informed me that the time constraint is a Voice Pulse thing, not Vitelity... part of why she likes Vitelity better. 🙂

                Along those lines, VoIP.ms has a 25 concurrent call default limit. You can open a support ticket to have that removed. They will let you have as much as you want since you have to pay for it all by the minute anyway.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said:

                  @art_of_shred said:

                  @Minion-Queen just informed me that the time constraint is a Voice Pulse thing, not Vitelity... part of why she likes Vitelity better. 🙂

                  Along those lines, VoIP.ms has a 25 concurrent call default limit. You can open a support ticket to have that removed. They will let you have as much as you want since you have to pay for it all by the minute anyway.

                  Same with Vitelity. You can open a ticket to have the call limit removed.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
                    last edited by JaredBusch

                    Here is a solid graph from one of my locations for the year to date. Really simple and effective tool.

                    I will be having a discussion about providers because of this now.
                    As it says, this is VoicePulse. To get 8 concurrent calls (and keep the unlimited incoming) on VP, you have to pay $20/month for each concurrent call beyond the 4th.

                    The end user preferred that over a pure pay per use provider like VoIP.ms. No I can use this to drive home reality not "gut feelings" since the old PBX had o reporting and was POTS lines.

                    This trunk is ONLY used for inbound calling. Now to figure out how much of it is toll-free, which is still charged. thus offsetting the costs even more.

                    img

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch between your original post of this report and the most current the design appears to have changed a bit.

                      Did someone pick up this project and start updating it again?

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        @JaredBusch between your original post of this report and the most current the design appears to have changed a bit.

                        Did someone pick up this project and start updating it again?

                        No, this is the same package. This second one is on an Elastix 2.4 install. I dropped to the Embedded FreePBX and manually uploaded the same tgz package.

                        The first one was on a PBX in a Flash install.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said:

                          Here is a solid graph from one of my locations for the year to date. Really simple and effective tool.

                          I will be having a discussion about providers because of this now.
                          As it says, this is VoicePulse. To get 8 concurrent calls (and keep the unlimited incoming) on VP, you have to pay $20/month for each concurrent call beyond the 4th.

                          The end user preferred that over a pure pay per use provider like VoIP.ms. No I can use this to drive home reality not "gut feelings" since the old PBX had o reporting and was POTS lines.

                          This trunk is ONLY used for inbound calling. Now to figure out how much of it is toll-free, which is still charged. thus offsetting the costs even more.

                          So what change are you looking to make? Does the current provider charge in arrears on the fee based on how many lines you used over 4?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
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                            He's looking to get a reduced price per month as this site is almost always exceeding the 4 call limit.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
                              last edited by DustinB3403

                              @JaredBusch can you take another screenshot of this report but for a 1 hour time span.

                              Just curious what level of detail it includes.

                              Also have you considering adding the steps you used to install to Elastix 2.4 on @scottalanmiller topic of installing Elastix 2.4.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                last edited by JaredBusch

                                @Dashrender said:

                                So what change are you looking to make? Does the current provider charge in arrears on the fee based on how many lines you used over 4?

                                How did you even come to that conclusion?

                                The point is to force them to accept that they do not need to pay for 8 concurrent calls. That is $200 so far this year (to get from 7 to 😎 and there have been exactly 2 calls that would be impacted. They will have to decide if those two calls are worth $240/year.

                                Similar for 7+ as there have been only 16 instances in the year to date where there have been 7+ calls. Dropping to 6 would save $480/year. Not my decision, but it is my job to give them the options.

                                Or potentially, even change SIP providers.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  Aww - so it's a hard pre-paid limit. Cool - so they could save themselves a bundle by dropping down with the understanding that on occasion they might get a "all lines are busy now" message.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said:

                                    @JaredBusch can you take another screenshot of this report but for a 1 hour time span.

                                    This is "today"

                                    img

                                    Here is between 10 and 11 AM

                                    img

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Aww - so it's a hard pre-paid limit. Cool - so they could save themselves a bundle by dropping down with the understanding that on occasion they might get a "all lines are busy now" message.

                                      Right, that. Or they can port their numbers to a carrier that has no charges per concurrent call, but instead charges per minute. Such as VoIP.ms or even VoicePulse Five.

                                      I suspect that there is a significant amount of toll free calling on here and once I add in those costs (they are not part of the unlimited inbound), I am certain it will be much more savings that can be realized.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch
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                                        Here is the total concurrent calling. Inbound and outbound.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
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                                          awww Inbound doesn't have this limit. even better!

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                                          • NetworkNerdN
                                            NetworkNerd
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                                            What's the upload speed at this client site? And to be clear, is this a hosted system or on premise?

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