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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by JaredBusch

      Here is a solid graph from one of my locations for the year to date. Really simple and effective tool.

      I will be having a discussion about providers because of this now.
      As it says, this is VoicePulse. To get 8 concurrent calls (and keep the unlimited incoming) on VP, you have to pay $20/month for each concurrent call beyond the 4th.

      The end user preferred that over a pure pay per use provider like VoIP.ms. No I can use this to drive home reality not "gut feelings" since the old PBX had o reporting and was POTS lines.

      This trunk is ONLY used for inbound calling. Now to figure out how much of it is toll-free, which is still charged. thus offsetting the costs even more.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch between your original post of this report and the most current the design appears to have changed a bit.

        Did someone pick up this project and start updating it again?

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said:

          @JaredBusch between your original post of this report and the most current the design appears to have changed a bit.

          Did someone pick up this project and start updating it again?

          No, this is the same package. This second one is on an Elastix 2.4 install. I dropped to the Embedded FreePBX and manually uploaded the same tgz package.

          The first one was on a PBX in a Flash install.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said:

            Here is a solid graph from one of my locations for the year to date. Really simple and effective tool.

            I will be having a discussion about providers because of this now.
            As it says, this is VoicePulse. To get 8 concurrent calls (and keep the unlimited incoming) on VP, you have to pay $20/month for each concurrent call beyond the 4th.

            The end user preferred that over a pure pay per use provider like VoIP.ms. No I can use this to drive home reality not "gut feelings" since the old PBX had o reporting and was POTS lines.

            This trunk is ONLY used for inbound calling. Now to figure out how much of it is toll-free, which is still charged. thus offsetting the costs even more.

            So what change are you looking to make? Does the current provider charge in arrears on the fee based on how many lines you used over 4?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              He's looking to get a reduced price per month as this site is almost always exceeding the 4 call limit.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by DustinB3403

                @JaredBusch can you take another screenshot of this report but for a 1 hour time span.

                Just curious what level of detail it includes.

                Also have you considering adding the steps you used to install to Elastix 2.4 on @scottalanmiller topic of installing Elastix 2.4.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @Dashrender
                  last edited by JaredBusch

                  @Dashrender said:

                  So what change are you looking to make? Does the current provider charge in arrears on the fee based on how many lines you used over 4?

                  How did you even come to that conclusion?

                  The point is to force them to accept that they do not need to pay for 8 concurrent calls. That is $200 so far this year (to get from 7 to 😎 and there have been exactly 2 calls that would be impacted. They will have to decide if those two calls are worth $240/year.

                  Similar for 7+ as there have been only 16 instances in the year to date where there have been 7+ calls. Dropping to 6 would save $480/year. Not my decision, but it is my job to give them the options.

                  Or potentially, even change SIP providers.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    Aww - so it's a hard pre-paid limit. Cool - so they could save themselves a bundle by dropping down with the understanding that on occasion they might get a "all lines are busy now" message.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said:

                      @JaredBusch can you take another screenshot of this report but for a 1 hour time span.

                      This is "today"

                      img

                      Here is between 10 and 11 AM

                      img

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        Aww - so it's a hard pre-paid limit. Cool - so they could save themselves a bundle by dropping down with the understanding that on occasion they might get a "all lines are busy now" message.

                        Right, that. Or they can port their numbers to a carrier that has no charges per concurrent call, but instead charges per minute. Such as VoIP.ms or even VoicePulse Five.

                        I suspect that there is a significant amount of toll free calling on here and once I add in those costs (they are not part of the unlimited inbound), I am certain it will be much more savings that can be realized.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
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                          Here is the total concurrent calling. Inbound and outbound.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            awww Inbound doesn't have this limit. even better!

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                            • NetworkNerdN
                              NetworkNerd
                              last edited by NetworkNerd

                              What's the upload speed at this client site? And to be clear, is this a hosted system or on premise?

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
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                                @NetworkNerd said:

                                What's the upload speed at this client site? And to be clear, is this a hosted system or on premise?

                                On premise, and they have a 100mb AT&T fiber. They are only paying for 30mb, so I have the ERL capping the line at about 35mb

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  awww Inbound doesn't have this limit. even better!

                                  Huh? The trunk being used for inbound calls on my system is VoicePulse and it has an 8 concurrent call limit. The outbound trunk is VoIP.ms which is soft capped at 25, and there are also 2 IAX2 trunks connecting to other PBX systems. Those systems have no caps

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    awww Inbound doesn't have this limit. even better!

                                    Huh? The trunk being used for inbound calls on my system is VoicePulse and it has an 8 concurrent call limit. The outbound trunk is VoIP.ms which is soft capped at 25, and there are also 2 IAX2 trunks connecting to other PBX systems. Those systems have no caps

                                    Clearly I'm just off today, ignore me.

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