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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

      @scottalanmiller said

      Moderately? What do you consider "very" secure? Do you mean "not shared" files or "already deleted" files?

      I mean if you were using OneDrive (or ODfB or SharePoint) and wanted to share a very confidential file with a client would you feel confident doing so?

      More confident than any other method. So on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being totally insecure and 10 being "as secure as any product you can get today" I'd be pretty close to 10.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Of course, you could make your OWN service for this that requires a long username, a super long password, a dongle, an RSA card, responding to a text message AND a 500 character URL.... but within reason this is basically as secure as things get.

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

          Of course, you could make your OWN service for this that requires a long username, a super long password, a dongle, an RSA card, responding to a text message AND a 500 character URL.... but within reason this is basically as secure as things get.

          What about things like ownCloud where you get a link sent to you, and a password sent to you (preferably by different means)...?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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            @dafyre said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

            @scottalanmiller said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

            Of course, you could make your OWN service for this that requires a long username, a super long password, a dongle, an RSA card, responding to a text message AND a 500 character URL.... but within reason this is basically as secure as things get.

            What about things like ownCloud where you get a link sent to you, and a password sent to you (preferably by different means)...?

            It's the combined length that makes it secure.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller

              Do you know if the SharePoint nomenclature is the same for everyone that uses the hosted version?

              I mean, I guess everyone has your e-mail address and domain anyway. Just seemed ... personal to be out there like that.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                @scottalanmiller

                Do you know if the SharePoint nomenclature is the same for everyone that uses the hosted version?

                I mean, I guess everyone has your e-mail address and domain anyway. Just seemed ... personal to be out there like that.

                It would all be the same, yes.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said

                  It would all be the same, yes.

                  Well, I guess POTUS wouldn't want to use that! 😉

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                    @scottalanmiller

                    Do you know if the SharePoint nomenclature is the same for everyone that uses the hosted version?

                    I mean, I guess everyone has your e-mail address and domain anyway. Just seemed ... personal to be out there like that.

                    You're email address like you home address isn't private - really can't be. So it's not something that's part of security.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                      @scottalanmiller said

                      It would all be the same, yes.

                      Well, I guess POTUS wouldn't want to use that! 😉

                      I don't follow.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said

                        I don't follow.

                        I guess it just felt ... dirty ... to give out that much info. 🙂

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                          @scottalanmiller said

                          I don't follow.

                          I guess it just felt ... dirty ... to give out that much info. 🙂

                          I still have no idea what you are referencing.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @dafyre
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                            @dafyre said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                            Of course, you could make your OWN service for this that requires a long username, a super long password, a dongle, an RSA card, responding to a text message AND a 500 character URL.... but within reason this is basically as secure as things get.

                            What about things like ownCloud where you get a link sent to you, and a password sent to you (preferably by different means)...?

                            ownCloud has link sharing also.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              I consider things like this secure because the document is only accessible when you choose to make it acessible.

                              Unlike the fake security that is Facebook. If you upload media to Facebook, it is accessible to anyone that figures out the link. Your Facebook security settings do not apply.

                              Like this image, posted "friends only" last week.

                              https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/t31.0-8/q83/s960x960/12977152_10206115579193454_1225825370981412719_o.jpg

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch

                                That kind of touches on my next question.

                                Are any of these links ever available to search engines?

                                I was playing around with YouTube video streaming last week, in a testing scenario, and within a few minutes all my test video were at the top of a Google search for my company.

                                Needless to say I freaked a bit.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  Youtube is Google's product, why would you expect anything less?

                                  As for the links, if there aren't actually listed anywhere on the site, and the DB of the websites aren't spider-able, you should be good.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said

                                    Youtube is Google's product, why would you expect anything less?

                                    It was instantaneous. Creepy.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      @Dashrender said

                                      Youtube is Google's product, why would you expect anything less?

                                      It was instantaneous. Creepy.

                                      again.. Google property. but even when not, Google is pretty damned fast at finding things.. I'm sure they have 10's of Gb of bandwidth doing only that.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said

                                        again.. Google property. but even when not, Google is pretty damned fast at finding things.. I'm sure they have 10's of Gb of bandwidth doing only that.

                                        Our company is barely on there.

                                        I literally tested a video of myself on ML and it was up in 3 milliseconds.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                                          @JaredBusch

                                          That kind of touches on my next question.

                                          Are any of these links ever available to search engines?

                                          If you leave them open AND publish them somewhere for the search engines to find, of course they are. Same as if you put your username and password here on ML, the search engines would find that too.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            @BRRABill said in Security Of Cloud Shared Links:

                                            I was playing around with YouTube video streaming last week, in a testing scenario, and within a few minutes all my test video were at the top of a Google search for my company.

                                            Needless to say I freaked a bit.

                                            Most people would be delighted as that would be the intend of publishing stuff about your company. You submitted company content directly to the search engine and the engine showed your results. that's not creepy, it's both desired (by the 99.999%) and totally expected.

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